Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:27 pm
gaffo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:48 am
Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:44 am
I bow to her but she is not my Goddess.
My God is I am.
value understanding and discussion.
per your above????????????
so whom is you God?
the only other Goddess (Germanic one - 000 AD.BC was Nurtis - is that your Goddess?) i know is the German one (--------------i guess i know of the indian Goddess of Shiva and Kali too.................to clarify)
or the "proper" understanding of Yahwah?
or El (if you do not view El as the same as one of his sons YHWH?
I value discourse, but in order to discuss i must understand your views Sir ;-/.
Modern Gnostic Christians name our God "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.
You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.
The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation.
In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that lazy Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.
That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.
Here is the real way Jesus taught.
Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbes ... r_embedded
Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.
The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural.
I understand the above (thanks for reply BTW) - "we follow Jesus' teachings, not the icon and the other "Christians" do.
thats fine - good in fact. so that make you a non-Sualist, excellent.
however you did not actually answer my inquary as to who/whom is your God?
Gnostics viewed YHWH as evil and lesser and not actually God, but a "basterd product that only thought he was God) - son of Sophia.
You state "I am" above - well that was what YHWH said his name was to moses (s I'm sure you know).
so do you affirm YHWH as God and not Sophia? - if you do then you are not a Gnostic (IMO),
perhaps a "protognosic" aka follower of some of the works like Gosp of Thomas and - yes- even Gosp of john.
- while discounting Apocolyptic works like Revelation, and Gosp of Mark.
BTW i think Jesus was an essene (like John the Baptist (they knew each other) - both had folliowings and both preached at the same time and were of equal stature (the latter lost out to history and is now though lesser than Jesus).
Jesus, as an Essene, would have been an Apocalypticist
litterally the End of the World within 30 yrs, then the Lion will eat grass and lie with the lamb (note: this theology ties in with Essenes being Vegitarians - first thing post fall of Adam was killing of animals to provide clothing and food). and according to Jubaless (the most favored book of the Essenes BTW) - said fall of Adam, created carnivorous animals (and thus Lion's stopped eating straw and instead Lambs - but at the End Days = will return to inocence and eat straw agian (Jesus knew about Jubaless theology because he was an Essene).
BTW according to Jubaless - Man and animals could talk to each other - as equals - prior to the Fall, then a "Wall" was placed, and man could not longer talk to the animals (not addressed in the book if animals can talk to each other however - post Fall).