To lose your mind

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Re: To lose your mind

Post by QuantumT » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:00 pm

Skip wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:39 pm
The good news is, countries with advanced law-enforcement tend also to have tall buildings, sleeping pills, plastic bags and cars.
Countries that lack those amenities tend to have plenty of firearms, courtesy of the countries that do have amenities.
Or, I suppose you could go out in the woods and piss off a bear or tiger. Farther north, they still have a few unoccupied ice-floes.
The bear thing is not recommended. I've seen The Revenant.
And gravity (tall buildings) is selfish.
Suffocation (bag) seems to be the best alternative to a bullet. Also less bloody.

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Post by henry quirk » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:52 am

"A bullet seems like an easy and quick solution, but what if one lives in a country, where firearms are very difficult to obtain?"

Easy: death by cop.

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Post by Skip » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:38 am

henry quirk wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:52 am
"A bullet seems like an easy and quick solution, but what if one lives in a country, where firearms are very difficult to obtain?"

Easy: death by cop.
Only in violent countries, where guns are probably easy to come by. Where the citizens are presumed unarmed, the cops are not trigger-happy, either.
Except dictatorships. But there, you can't count on quick'n'neat.

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Post by henry quirk » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:53 am

Skip,

Even the most peaceful cop, in the most peaceful country, will pull his piece and shoot you if you go at him with an ax, so...

Death by cop.

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Post by Skip » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:14 am

henry quirk wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:53 am
Skip,

Even the most peaceful cop, in the most peaceful country, will pull his piece and shoot you if you go at him with an ax, so...

Death by cop.
Depends who you are. The OP was talking about dementia, which mostly happens to frail old people, not ones who can make a convincing show of attacking a cop with an axe. And it always depends how good the cop is.
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Thing about suicide by cop: you only get one attempt. If they take you alive, even painfully wounded, they take you to the closed ward.
I wouldn't risk it.

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"I wouldn't risk it"

Post by henry quirk » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:52 pm

Me neither, but ya gotta 'make do' sometimes.

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Re: To lose your mind

Post by Skip » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:25 pm

My need supercedes any consideration of tidiness, but forcing a [probably] decent police officer to traumatize himself is unfair.
Not tall buildings - that really is too likely to kill or injure innocent bystanders, as well as inconvenience traffic. Plus, I get vertigo. Plus, you may have two or three seconds to reflect on the way down.
The gun in the mouth is quite unpalatable for the clean-up crew.
Car in garage is one of the better options, if you can't con a prescription for sleeping pills.
Best of all is legal, competent medical assistance.

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Before it happened

Post by commonsense » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:23 pm

QuantumT wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:04 am
Your mind. What if yours was taken from you, by dementia or alzheimers? What would you do, if you could do something before it happened?
I would take measures to avoid losing my mind.
I’d also make donations to dementia research.

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Post by Arising_uk » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:03 am

henry quirk wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:53 am
Skip,

Even the most peaceful cop, in the most peaceful country, will pull his piece and shoot you if you go at him with an ax, so...

Death by cop.
Our police don't in general carry guns so not so easy and even then we tend not to shoot the disturbed or insane. Easiest is car and hose-pipe.

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Re: To lose your mind

Post by Dalek Prime » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:13 pm

QuantumT wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:04 am
Your mind. It's the only thing you truly have. It makes you You.

What if yours was taken from you, by dementia or alzheimers? What would you do, if you could do something before it happened?
Party my arse off, and stumble off a cliff.

What. You've got a better idea?

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Re: To lose your mind

Post by Walker » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:05 pm

QuantumT wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:04 am
Your mind. It's the only thing you truly have. It makes you You.

What if yours was taken from you, by dementia or alzheimers? What would you do, if you could do something before it happened?
De Kooning kept right on painting.

Some folks get as mean as a snake.

Some get sweeter.

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