Two paradoxes related to God
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Let me begin again. No one knows what time is or even if it is.
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And I have a whole book written by a physicist that says otherwise. Besides, neither of your scenarios apply to mine.
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So bring other people opinions and lets to discuss them. But first thing first: Can we agree on the fact that time is real and allows changes?
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Can you give an example?
How do you define movement and change?
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Could you please expand?
What appears could be mere illusion.
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Not in this case.
"As opposed to" = "rather than"
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So, you believe that time and change are illusion. Do you have an argument for that? What is real then if all that appears to us is illusion?
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There is awareness of the “present moment” as “present moment awareness” an opportunity for directly “witnessing” the unreality of conceptual thoughts.
What is “seen” arises and passes away in consciousness, not the “seeing” itself.
Concepts divide that which is undivided. A seeming paradox, albeit illusory. The thought “tree” is seen not to be the tree itself, the thought “consciousness” is seen not to be consciousness itself. There is no division between the tree and the thought “tree”. One is form the other is formless - they both co-exist within the same ONE seamless reality.
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There are NO paradoxes or contradictions in Reality. Except in this conception, albeit illusory.
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This has already been answered for you previously.. here it is again.
Go back to the source: before this concept of beingness, “I Am,” arose, what was your state?
I don’t know.
That which you don’t know, that is the right state.
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The concept of you is the illusion -not you.
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Ultimately, you are the proof that God exists, not the other way around. For before any question about God can be put, you must be there to put it.
You can BE without a concept. But a concept cannot Be without you. (What is “seen” arises and passes away in consciousness, not the “seeing” itself. )
Hence the illusory nature of conceptual thought..let’s be clear about this. From belief to clarity.
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there was no time prior to BB.bahman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:25 am Here we consider God as temporal and timeless. We show that we are dealing with a paradox in each case.
Temporal God: In this case God creates the universe at specific time so the universe has specific age. God however has no beginning which means that He has to exist in infinite past. This is however paradoxical because one cannot reach from infinite past to now.
Timeless God: In this case there is no time reference for which we can assign the act of creation to therefore the age of universe could be anything which this is paradoxical.
i fail to see a paradox.
welcome clarification of your point (I'm an athiest - so dog in the fight here).
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How concept could be illusory? They reflect something in reality.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:28 amThere is awareness of the “present moment” as “present moment awareness” an opportunity for directly “witnessing” the unreality of conceptual thoughts.
What is “seen” arises and passes away in consciousness, not the “seeing” itself.
Concepts divide that which is undivided. A seeming paradox, albeit illusory. The thought “tree” is seen not to be the tree itself, the thought “consciousness” is seen not to be consciousness itself. There is no division between the tree and the thought “tree”. One is form the other is formless - they both co-exist within the same ONE seamless reality.
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There are NO paradoxes or contradictions in Reality. Except in this conception, albeit illusory.
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