Why can I watch porn no problem, but get shy at scenes of affectional sex in movies?

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-1- wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:48 am
Walker wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:21 am the cause of all problems is self-cherishing, which is both a realization and a teaching.
This is especially true when one teaches the Bible by cheri-picking the topics from it.

As a self-realization, did you, Walker, not pick your own cherry, before someone else also had the opportunity to pick yours? This seems to be the pattern for all humans' sex education of modern times in western (and likely, in eastern) societies. As well as in southern and northern societies.

Maybe this is what you meant by "problem" when you talked about self-realization and self-teaching in the self-cheri department.
A problem is anything you consider to be a problem.

For instance, what's your problem?
If you can name it, the cause of its existence as a problem, is self-cherishing.
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Walker wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:48 pm
A problem is anything you consider to be a problem.

For instance, what's your problem?
If you can name it, the cause of its existence as a problem, is self-cherishing.
I get your point now.

It is sort of a circular point; if something says something is a problem, then it can't be but a problem. A sort of self-fulfilling definition.

It actually applies to everything else, as well. It's your love if you say and feel it's your love. It's a toothache, as soon as you realize and perhaps verbalize it's a toothache. It's a good meal if you think it's a good meal. It's a world if you think of it as a world.

Yours is a philosophy. It is what it is.

What are its useful applications? I wonder.
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This is quite a spectacle. The man who can't be understood meets the man who thinks he understands him.
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Is 'affectional' sex the sex you have while in a confessional? It must be priest 'locker-room talk'.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:55 pm sex you have while in a confessional
Sounds like a time saver. You perform the confession and the sin simultaneously. I would imagine it takes some practice to maintain a steady voice while confessing.
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Harbal wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:06 pm Sounds like a time saver. You perform the confession and the sin simultaneously. I would imagine it takes some practice to maintain a steady voice while confessing.
I don't think a steady voice would be a requirement in this spiritual/physical experience. It's the thought alone that counts.
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Harbal wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:48 pm This is quite a spectacle. The man who can't be understood meets the man who thinks he understands him.
Spectacles abound freely in nature. "When the student is ready, the teacher appears. Also, when the teacher is ready, a student shows up for class. Education is a symbiotic relationship, when things only happen to mutually reacting agents when they are in sync."
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-1- wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:12 pm
Harbal wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:48 pm This is quite a spectacle. The man who can't be understood meets the man who thinks he understands him.
Spectacles abound freely in nature. "When the student is ready, the teacher appears. Also, when the teacher is ready, a student shows up for class. Education is a symbiotic relationship, when things only happen to mutually reacting agents when they are in sync."
Are you and Walker the same person?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:39 pm
Are you and Walker the same person?
No, we are not. But I'm convinced that you and a spineless person with no good upbringing, with a bad attitude, and with an unbecoming personality are the same person.
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-1- wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:56 am I can't watch sexual displays of affection in movies.
how about couples porn aka 'women friendly' porn?
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Sir-Sister-of-Suck wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:39 am That's because sex scenes as seen on movies and TV shows are some of the biggest pieces of festering vanilla dog shit ever did done seen. It's all kissing then straight to missionary position. They're so cringey. I was watching through Stranger things recently, which is a fine show but I just had to skip through the teen love-making scenes. It's worse when you watch this stuff with your sister or parents. I remember having watched Breaking Bad, and there was this part where Skylar is like munching on the lower half of walter's face, getting her mouth all over his chin and all I could imagine is the actress having to relish in the flavor of Bryan Cranstons crusty, gross old man chin shavings. Probably swallowed some of it, yuck.
this is why no longer watch "new" tv. only old stuff pre-80's

all my DVD's blurays are old tv/movies -when story was all.

when I Claudious is remade - i'll ignore and never watch for i know the original is better.

as for porn, i'm a spectator but place myself as the guy fking the girl, it an animal-male thing - mechanical, not emotional.

so i compartmentalize.

when i want to view a good flick i care about the stories/characters - not them fking.

and so why i have nothing newer than 40 yr old stuff in my library - and why i "cut the cord" 20 yrs ago.
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-1- wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:03 am
Sir-Sister-of-Suck wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:39 am That's because sex scenes as seen on movies and TV shows are some of the biggest pieces of festering vanilla dog shit ever did done seen.
If that's the epitome of saccharine-sweet affected affectionate schmaltz, then you haven't seen parents-children relationship portrayed in Hollywood movies. They make me puke. A perfect example of it would be ... shit
"hollywood" stopped making good movies by 1980. my understanding it is the same with "bollywood" (heard that Shyam Benagal was the last good Indian director - watched a couple of his movie on YT - but lacking subs/yet seeing them worthy - bought his "box set" of 8 movies for 80 buck a couple of days ago (the DVDs have subtitles)).



give up on Hollywood and go foreign - Majid Majidi (Iran) is a good director, check out the danish movie "The hunt" as well.

learn to read subs - after a few movies you will no longer notice that you are reading and will be able watch good movies about real life with real stories.

so many great foriegn flicks.

Kolya, Dark Blue World, Zelary, Valentin, Hunger, Downfall, City of Life and Death, Central Station, Song of Sparrows, Children of Heaven, white Balloon, Color of Paradise, Final Days of Sophie Scholl, Two Women, August Evening, Wages of Fear, Apu Trillogy (3 movie set by Satjiset Ray), etc..................

fking lightyears better than Hollydreck pap.

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Greta wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:45 am My understanding is that the current value systems in the Anglosphere is that two people making love is obscene but someone being shot is family entertainment.

As for porn and loveless sex in general, I can see why one wouldn't find it embarrassing because it's generally mindless, mechanical and repetitive. In out in out in out up down up down up down ... no more embarrassing or exciting than seeing animals going at it on documentaries, except that the latter is more interesting.

When I was a child I saw lions having sex in a lion park. The female was chewing at a bone and the male just slipped around her and slipped it in. Throughout the mating the female did not for a moment look up from her eating or give the impression that she even noticed the "stud" at work. With the deed done the male moved a small distance away and stared into space. The female just continued eating. That was all pretty entertaining.
;-) nice visuals in my mind.

thanks!

thanks?

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Greta wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:45 am When I was a child I saw lions having sex in a lion park.
My story: We went to the Lion Park, too, and my daddy parked our lion, and we went shopping, and we came out later, and we could not find where the lion was parked, so we had to walk all the way home. And I ain't lion.
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