The struggle the USA faces in accepting kindness for all

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Whatever that happens, changes to government must happen by democracy and human rights (UDHR)

It is admirable by USA to keep going on its democratic development, never failing the capitalism under democracy and human rights, rewarding (hopefully) the able people, the "basketball players" who are able to make a difference toward a better future for all (hence the value of their work/ideas)!

Note: Corrupt government may be overthrown by armed revolt, of course.
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Necromancer wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:48 am Note: Corrupt government may be overthrown by armed revolt, of course.
If you don't know the US government is corrupt to the core, you're not following the news.
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"If you don't know the US government is corrupt to the core, you're not following the news."

Corrupt it may be: it still works.

But then, American gov isn't really corrupt...it's clunky and inefficient and prone to abuse...this is as it should be...this is part of the safeguard for individual citizens.

You all should pray the US never become 'efficient' or 'united', cuz when that happens, we'll eat you all up.
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Arising_uk wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:36 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:I enjoy the British/European political wisdom given here considering they are...for lack of better terms...being raped by immigrants...hence the general crankiness caused by moral, physical and spiritual exhaustion. ...
Who's being 'raped' by immigrants? By and large most immigrants to a country work bloody hard and pay their taxes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ed-UK.html

https://www.bing.com/search?q=britain+u ... sp=1&ghc=1

https://www.bing.com/search?q=britain%2 ... 6CD7334387


But they argue for the importance of sexual freedom, so at least they are taking there own advice and being "generous" to others.
What are you talking about, Rochdale? If so you'll find that the reason why that happened was due to the predominately white authorities not giving a shit what happens to poor white females, that and that the social worker system is underfunded and over-stretched.

It is sarcasm. Western politics, specifically in the countries of the EU, advocate sexual freedom. And they are being "raped" by immigrants. Hence in allowing themselves to be used and abused, ie "raped", they follow the same standards they are promoting.

The simple point, is that the countries of the EU, considering their current crisis's (immigration, cultural and moral/ethical identity, finances, etc.) should "not point at the splinter in their neighbors eye, but address the wooden plank in their own".
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The Daily Wail :roll: You really need to take that paper with a large dose of salts as its designed to appeal to a certain mindset who've never left their village.

As to the other links, they do not show that Sharia law is going to be British law as lawyers do not make the laws here.

It is sarcasm. Western politics, specifically in the countries of the EU, advocate sexual freedom. And they are being "raped" by immigrants. Hence in allowing themselves to be used and abused, ie "raped", they follow the same standards they are promoting.

The simple point, is that the countries of the EU, considering their current crisis's (immigration, cultural and moral/ethical identity, finances, etc.) should "not point at the splinter in their neighbors eye, but address the wooden plank in their own".
Then you should have read the reply of the person you responded to as they are not British nor European apparently.
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Arising_uk wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:45 am
The Daily Wail :roll: You really need to take that paper with a large dose of salts as its designed to appeal to a certain mindset who've never left their village.

As to the other links, they do not show that Sharia law is going to be British law as lawyers do not make the laws here.

It appears that way for those regions. I also had a friend from great Britain, about 8 years ago, who would talk about the encroachment of sharia law.

It is sarcasm. Western politics, specifically in the countries of the EU, advocate sexual freedom. And they are being "raped" by immigrants. Hence in allowing themselves to be used and abused, ie "raped", they follow the same standards they are promoting.

The simple point, is that the countries of the EU, considering their current crisis's (immigration, cultural and moral/ethical identity, finances, etc.) should "not point at the splinter in their neighbors eye, but address the wooden plank in their own".
Then you should have read the reply of the person you responded to as they are not British nor European apparently.
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Obviously I'd have thought.
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You actually have it wrong. People the world over, throughout the USA, Australia, Canada, Europe, divide along the same political lines regarding why people are poor. People on the left largely think a person is poor solely due to institutional factors, having nothing to do with their own personal behavior. People on the right largely think people are poor due to their personal failures in life, having nothing to do with external factors. There are, therefore, many Americans who share both sets of views, which is why America is largely divided over the issue, just like people are divided on the issue throughout the globe.

It would be impossible for Americans to be different from other people around the globe in some biologically fundamental way. How could that possibly happen?

It's also true that the vast majority of people do not even understand the distinction between capitalism and socialism. Capitalism is not, and never has been, solely free-markets. Capitalism has always consisted of free-markets along with an institutional framework and a government that allows them to function. Socialism is setting prices through the government, which never works in the long run. Just ask the French how well that works out for them, or the idea that jobs can be rationed by limiting hours so workers can share jobs. When the government sets clear limits on supply and/or demand, and/or sets prices, then we are talking about socialism, which has never been shown to work. Having social insurance, or safety nets, and a regulatory framework, on the other hand, is not socialism, but part of capitalism. It's just that ideologues don't want to deal with the complexities of the issues and so they reach for overly simplistic platitudes and base their "reasoning" on simplistic slogans.
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'Socialism' doesn't work. Oh my. :?
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henry quirk wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:34 am "'charities' are never corrupt."

All human endeavors are prone to corruption...nature of the beast...governments, charities, websites, etc.

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'neo-liberal'."

Define, please.

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"Who are all these people who can but don't work? How would you know?"

My wonderful government defines them as those who defraud the taxpayers...go hunt down the gov stats if you're interested....they're pretty damn easy to find.

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"Do you really want to be bothered making your own roads?"

As I say: I got no problem payin' for that which I use...I use roads (more than most)...do the math, Veg.

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"Most of your precious taxes go on weapons."

Most of our taxes go to 'entitlements', not the millitary...you can hunt those stats down pretty easily too, if you're interested.
Look up 'discretionary spending'.
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henry quirk wrote:You all should pray the US never become 'efficient' or 'united', cuz when that happens, we'll eat you all up.
:lol: No you won't you'll be too busy imprisoning even more of your citizens and embroiled in a sectarian insurgency, after that you'll just be isolationist.
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VT: I made a previous post, regarding your claim that socialism works, but did not see it.

Yes, the historical evidence tells us that socialism does not work. That's why the entire Soviet Bloc crumbled. That's why China instituted free-market reforms. That's why Venezuela is a train-wreck. That's why Russia had to institute capitalist reforms because after socializing the farms, they faced massive starvation. That's why economies in places like India and Israel took off after they abandoned socialism, and not before. If socialism worked, then these facts would not exist.

Keep ignoring the evidence and believe that this time socialism will magically work, which is the very definition of insanity --- trying the same thing over and over again, this time expecting a different result.
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Poor Americans. They can't help their illiteracy. It's just unfortunate that illiteracy is a contagious disease.
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VT: There you go again showing how biased and delusional you are. Your childish comments about Americans is a sign that you are an irrational bigot, and not a smart, educated person at all.
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So I should just pretend it's not true, to save the tender feelings of Americans?
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