What would you think of such a world?
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...in short, females would be no better than the male of the species. If there's one thing that denotes equality, it must be that we're equally obnoxious.Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:16 pm Imagine a world in which men are subjugated by women for thousands of years. God would be defined as female, making females in her own image, and casting males as inferior -– and there would be a big storybook passed down through generations to prove it. In that world, women would commonly abuse men and boys at all ages... in their own families, in their workplaces, in schools, in public, in private, in churches... everywhere. Males would be routinely bought and sold and handled and spoken to as if they were little more than objects to be used by the females. In society, males would not be given the same rights or recognition or value as females. If the males asked for truth or justice, they would be punished – OR – their claims would be treated as highly suspect and inconvenient, and the females would either dismiss it entirely or try to steal away sympathy for themselves by saying “I made a mistake”, or by claiming themselves to be a victim of a smear campaign. All the while, a large majority of females would be so obsessed and intoxicated with their own pleasure and power and importance that they would consider their desires justified or excused, even if that resulted in ongoing abuse of others, neglect of their own character and relationships and planet, and evils and distortions committed in the name of, or despite, their god.
What would you think of such a world?
If such a world existed with women subjugating men, then yes, those females would be no better than men. However, it seems unlikely that females would manifest such a world (they're not driven/consumed by the same things)... whereas such a world HAS been manifested (and is maintained) by a large majority of men, throughout history and right now. I thought it would be interesting for males to consider what such a world would be like for them to live in if the circumstances were switched. I'm guessing it's very distasteful, if not impossible, for them to consider. Our MAN-made world really is that unbalanced... and many men have no real clue.
When women held the executive power, were men and boys continually sexually abused in every area of society and life?
Oh, I see. Then yes, by all means CARRY ON... for there we have the justification and the male response.
From this, what can we deduce about the male God?-1- wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:05 pm Referring to the opening post: the entire world was exactly like that for about 90000 years (ninety-thousand years) in humanity's pre-historic development, with males only surging to dominance about 10000 (ten thousand) years ago, and only in small parts of the world at first .
The male God is 5 to 10 thousand years old. There used to be female gods, before that. Plus, there was pluralism, not monotheism.Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:37 pmFrom this, what can we deduce about the male God?-1- wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:05 pm Referring to the opening post: the entire world was exactly like that for about 90000 years (ninety-thousand years) in humanity's pre-historic development, with males only surging to dominance about 10000 (ten thousand) years ago, and only in small parts of the world at first .
Then I guess he can't be the ultimate creator because he's still young on the scene of creation.
And I won't forget to keep asking you to please retract the insinuation by you that women and girls get continually sexually abused by males. Please retract this.Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:29 pmWhen women held the executive power, were men and boys continually sexually abused in every area of society and life?
Response by -1-: Yes. Inasmuch as women and girls are continually sexually abused 24-7 without stoppage in today's life.
What I mean is that I want to sarcastically express that "continually sexually abused" is a huge, and very, very insulting overstatement and unjust judgment over all men. You'd better retract this, please. No woman or girl is continually sexually abused, and most women and girls never get sexually abused at all in their entire life. You please take this statement back. I ask you.
Oh, I see. Then yes, by all means CARRY ON... for there we have the justification and the male response.
Forget about balance and what is right... just stop "whining", right?
Response by -1-: No, you lady. DO NOT FORGET ABOUT THE BALANCE AND WHAT IS RIGHT. The balance is the most important thing I want to emphasize here. 90 thousand years of female domination over males... vs ten thousand years of male domination over females. THIS IS THE BALANCE: 90,000 YEARS AGAINST 10,000 YEARS. I certainly do not want you to forget this balance.
Yes, I know, you very much want to forget this balance... if there were only one way. But there is no way I'll let you.
You women still owe us men 80,000 years of domination over you. What is fair is fair. You owe this to us, before equality could be established on the balance sheet.
I used the words "continually sexually abused" because I suspected you were going to simply say "Yes, men and boys were surely sexually abused" -- and I wanted to make a pre-emptive point that it could not have been anything at all like what we are experiencing during the reign of men -- which is an ongoing and continual condition. Continual does not mean 24-7, so why do I need to retract what I said?
That is an absurd rationalization. Male-domination is very likely going to wipe out humanity and the planet before we ever reach the 90,000 year mark.-1- wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:50 pm Response by -1-: The balance is the most important thing I want to emphasize here. 90 thousand years of female domination over males... vs ten thousand years of male domination over females. THIS IS THE BALANCE: 90,000 YEARS AGAINST 10,000 YEARS. I certainly do not want you to forget this balance.
Completely absent of structure as everything would be based around worship of "the void". I am assuming you are simply just reversing the current state of things through the question: "What would happen if women did what men currently do"? The simple answer is they never could have that power, because the current structure as already based around women already...using the aforemention examples you provided.Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:16 pm Imagine a world in which men are subjugated by women for thousands of years. God would be defined as female, making females in her own image, and casting males as inferior -– and there would be a big storybook passed down through generations to prove it. In that world, women would commonly abuse men and boys at all ages... in their own families, in their workplaces, in schools, in public, in private, in churches... everywhere. Males would be routinely bought and sold and handled and spoken to as if they were little more than objects to be used by the females. In society, males would not be given the same rights or recognition or value as females. If the males asked for truth or justice, they would be punished – OR – their claims would be treated as highly suspect and inconvenient, and the females would either dismiss it entirely or try to steal away sympathy for themselves by saying “I made a mistake”, or by claiming themselves to be a victim of a smear campaign. All the while, a large majority of females would be so obsessed and intoxicated with their own pleasure and power and importance that they would consider their desires justified or excused, even if that resulted in ongoing abuse of others, neglect of their own character and relationships and planet, and evils and distortions committed in the name of, or despite, their god.
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Ah!! Very interesting! So... women's and men's heavens and hells are different, yes?Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:47 pm Because men under such circumstance self-destruct in order to destroy the society around them. Women are incapable of true self-destruction. When a man experiences an environment that is not balanced in nature, he takes that creative impulse and transmutes it into death and destruction. Women on the otherhand, as nurturers, simply are just neutralized and neither exist nor do not exist.
If you are asking what a man would feel in regards to all of this? Just take a look at a burning city with everyone running around screaming in despair. Women complain about things they do not like, men simply just destroy everything including themselves.
Well, it does seem that men and women are very different, doesn't it? They have different priorities... and different things that fulfill them... and different strengths and weaknesses. So wouldn't it seem that their societies would reflect such differences too?Plato's Rock wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:01 pm Personally, I don't think that said world would be much different other than the perceived switch in gender roles.
If I thought they deserved it, yes.Plato's Rock wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:01 pm If you had the option of being an asshole to someone without repercussion (which is often the case), would you choose to do it?
That's true. I just think it's interesting to consider that Christians might define Heaven and Hell as being the same for all... when actually, women and men want very different things. For example, generally speaking... Heaven for a woman is loving and being truly loved. Heaven for a man is screwing a bunch of virgins. The Christian descriptions of Heaven don't seem to take this into account.Plato's Rock wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:01 pm yes, women's and men's Heaven's and Hell's are different, but it's also going to very dramatically from person to person.
As a man, or a beast, or half of each? That's erotic! (That's actually an idea for one of my books I want to write.) See... that's a male Heaven. A woman wouldn't want that... although she might like to visit the male Heaven.Plato's Rock wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:01 pm For instance, one of the odder fantasies I used to entertain while growing up was...what would it be like to be a male "Stag/Stud"? That I would've been essentially mounted to a "rack", and used solely for reproductive means....
That's a good point. I do tend to hold people highly responsible for how they choose to interact with others... and what they spread around. Some people act like bloated nutjobs, and I think it's valuable (and fun) to bring that to their attention.Plato's Rock wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:01 pm The point I'd like to make overall, is none of us had a choice in any of our "Traits/Qualities"...only in how we choose to interact with others, and our self.