~ The Birth of Catalan ~
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You seem sophomoric in your responses here.
Been noticing this more and more.
Use a lot of words but you seem to say less & less. Perhaps something in your personal life...?
Give it time. Don't push. But be aware of it. It shows.
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You seem sophomoric in your responses here.
Been noticing this more and more.
Use a lot of words but you seem to say less & less. Perhaps something in your personal life...?
Give it time. Don't push. But be aware of it. It shows.
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- Arising_uk
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Re: ~ The Birth of Catalan ~
*yawn*
Your sock-puppet seems to have the same supply of stock cut-paste responses and plays the same twadry head games. Just goes to show, you can rebrand a twat but...
Your sock-puppet seems to have the same supply of stock cut-paste responses and plays the same twadry head games. Just goes to show, you can rebrand a twat but...
Re: ~ The Birth of Catalan ~
I didn't say you have a Constitution. But you have an established order. Constitution is just a non-exclusive example.
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"It sounds like you have extreme resistance to structures and labeling."
Absolutely.
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"Identifiers help people know what they can relate to."
Sometimes...in my experience, though, such things tend to short circuit actual conversation or debate, 'oh, he's a [fill in the blank] so obviously he favors X, Y, and Z' (when, in fact he opposes X, Y, and Z).
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"I'm asking you how you think people are supposed to vote"
Same way they always do: dash of reason, dollop of emotion, handful of self-interest, smidge of prejudice, etc.
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"explain how you realistically think your scenario of "no affiliations or categories" would work in managing a country?"
Each and every one is motivated by self-interest...the perfect place to start from.
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"can you only fathom pointing your gun at everybody and declaring your own independence?"
Don't knock it till you've tried it, Lace...as St. Max said: you get along further with a handful of might than you can with a handful of right.
Absolutely.
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"Identifiers help people know what they can relate to."
Sometimes...in my experience, though, such things tend to short circuit actual conversation or debate, 'oh, he's a [fill in the blank] so obviously he favors X, Y, and Z' (when, in fact he opposes X, Y, and Z).
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"I'm asking you how you think people are supposed to vote"
Same way they always do: dash of reason, dollop of emotion, handful of self-interest, smidge of prejudice, etc.
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"explain how you realistically think your scenario of "no affiliations or categories" would work in managing a country?"
Each and every one is motivated by self-interest...the perfect place to start from.
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"can you only fathom pointing your gun at everybody and declaring your own independence?"
Don't knock it till you've tried it, Lace...as St. Max said: you get along further with a handful of might than you can with a handful of right.
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Re: ~ The Birth of Catalan ~
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You are coarse & especially rude of late...even for you.
Can't help but see that it's something personal. Obvious, actually...good luck with that.
...whatever it is.
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You are coarse & especially rude of late...even for you.
Can't help but see that it's something personal. Obvious, actually...good luck with that.
...whatever it is.
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- Arising_uk
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Re: ~ The Birth of Catalan ~
Do you know why 'they', i.e. the politicians and businessmen who finagled this situation, want independence Bill? Because they don't want to pay for the poorer parts of Spain. No great democratic cause but cash, which is of course a good reason but it's not 'no taxation without representation' as they had that.
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I'm sure there are 360 different perspectives on why & what-for and I'm certain your perspective is valid to a degree.
What I see in the protesters' posters are the words, independence, democracy, and freedom.
Having Catalan's elected officials jailed just seems wrong in a democratic system...
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I'm sure there are 360 different perspectives on why & what-for and I'm certain your perspective is valid to a degree.
What I see in the protesters' posters are the words, independence, democracy, and freedom.
Having Catalan's elected officials jailed just seems wrong in a democratic system...
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In this instance there's probably only about three.Bill Wiltrack wrote: I'm sure there are 360 different perspectives on why & what-for and I'm certain your perspective is valid to a degree.
Then they are pretty thick as they have democracy and freedom. They just don't want to pay for the poorer citizens of their republic.What I see in the protesters' posters are the words, independence, democracy, and freedom.
You think politicians shouldn't be jailed for breaking the law? Although I agree the Spanish authorities have been truly stupid in how they are dealing with this but from the looks of it some good is coming-out of it as there is a move to hold a referendum to change their constitution to allow the holding of independence referendums. Incidentally, this is an example of why the UK tends not to like the idea of a written constitution as it binds and limits possible political decisions and actions.Having Catalan's elected officials jailed just seems wrong in a democratic system... [/size]
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Respect your opinion and I appreciate your experimental use of larger fonts. I feel responsible & elated! Baby steps. As I said before - Don't push too hard or you will find that other egos inside of you will push back & possibly keep you in shackels...
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Respect your opinion and I appreciate your experimental use of larger fonts. I feel responsible & elated! Baby steps. As I said before - Don't push too hard or you will find that other egos inside of you will push back & possibly keep you in shackels...
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Think again.Bill Wiltrack wrote:Respect your opinion and I appreciate your experimental use of larger fonts.
I'm amazed that someone who harps on about the digital revolution can't use a spell-checker. Doesn't bode well for your investments.I feel responsible & elated! Baby steps. As I said before - Don't push too hard or you will find that other egos inside of you will push back & possibly keep you in shackels... [/size]
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Only occasionally use spell checker. Not a good speller myself. I'm looking at the quote you used...what word confuses you?
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Only occasionally use spell checker. Not a good speller myself. I'm looking at the quote you used...what word confuses you?
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