davidm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:05 pm
ken wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:00 am
davidm wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:23 pm
That's correct. That's how it is.
If you insist '
that is how it is', then there is nothing more to discuss with you. You already believe that you KNOW what the actual truth is.
Really, can you not understand the things that other people write?
Some times I can. Some times I can not. When I can not understand the things other people write, then I ask clarifying questions.
Can you always understand ALL of the things that other people write?
davidm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:05 pmYou (deliberately?) ignore all the
context of what I write.
Do I do that?
davidm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:05 pmI have been
quite explicit (as has uwot) that science does not pretend to ACTUAL TRUTH.
'Science', itself, is NOT a conscious entity and therefore does NOT do any thing at all. 'Science' is an activity, in which human beings partake.
davidm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:05 pmGiven this context, it should be obvious that when I write "that's how it is," it means that's how it is
according to the theory.
AND, we KNOW that a theory may NOT be accurate, and thus may not be what actually IS. So, when you write, "that's how it is,", which as you say means that is how it is
according to the theory, then what you are actually meaning when you say, "that's how it is" IS 'that is NOT how it actually may be'.
In other words when you say, "that's how it is", the truth might actually be much different.
This all seems very cumbersome and a distorted way of looking at and writing things.
WHY NOT, instead, just look at and observe things for how they really are?
davidm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:05 pmAnd the theory of relativity is constantly bolstered by empirical observations that validate and do not falsify the theory.
What is the 'theory of relativity' actually theorizing, to you?
The fact that absolutely every thing is relative to the observe is already plainly obvious to see.
The reason WHY human beings are not yet able to see and understand this fully yet is also plainly obvious to see.
davidm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:05 pmScience is constantly trying to
falsify relativity; not confirm it!
But the falsehoods, and the truths, are already plainly obvious to see.
The reason WHY human beings are not able to see them yet is also plainly obvious.
Again, 'science' does not try nor do any thing at all. Only human beings try to falsify, or try to truthasize, things. What human beings see and do is depended upon their already gained ideas, ideals, views, assumptions, and/or beliefs of which they are holding onto.
How 'science' is performed is depended on these things.
davidm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:05 pmApparently the whole discussion of GPS devices went right over your head.
Or, I just WANTED you to say that. I wanted to provide more evidence of how human beings generally make assumptions, and jump to conclusions, BEFORE they even begin to ask for clarification. Thanks to you you have once again shown this kind of behavior. Before gaining actual clarity of
what IS the actual case you prefer to make assumptions and believe they are true.
davidm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:05 pmIf you don't think relativity is true, then you need to come up with a
new theory that explains as least as much about the observed world, and more besides. Your rambling wall paper posts don't cut it.
Have you not grasped what I have been saying from the outset yet?
I am the ONE who has been saying to find the actual truth it is much quicker, simpler, and easier (thus better) to just look at and observe
what IS instead of coming up with theories about what, in fact, may NOT actually even be true.