surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:36 pm
No person ever thought a thought or asked a question thoughts and questions are self arising in impersonal consciousness believed
to belong to you giving the impression there is a thinker present in which they are appearing that presence is the only presence there
is ... it is one presence all knowing arises to this one presence every concept thought and question arises in conscious presence known
by the only knowing there is which is consciousness
So does this mean that the human mind is simply a channel through which Consciousness manifests itself and that it is Consciousness which is
doing the thinking rather than the mind even though the mind is not aware of this. And so are human minds incapable of thinking any original
thoughts. Like the proverbial brain in a vat that thinks it has free will but is really controlled by a superior intelligence which is the real brain
The idea there is a someone here with a free will able to control or choose their actions is an illusion.
Here is an image to support that...
The mind/body mechanism is likened to a biological computer, it is the interface between mind and heart, the heart being the universal field of consciousness that is beyond the brain which is the engine of the heart. The brain being likened to a transistor radio, the information is not in the actual radio, the radio is just the channel for the information to come streaming in and through...
The brain is the processor of information stored as memory in the field of consciousness which is processed into 2D images, and known as 3D informational knowledge. So there is no original thought because all thoughts already exist in consciousness, which are drawn upon by the mind/ brain mechanism, the instrument by which formless consciousness experiences itself as form, the desire to be in- form is knowledge on demand.
I've copied this information below from the internet to give you some more idea of what's going on.....
''The wrong perception of west and its science is that Brain and mind is the root of consciousness and power.
Eastern thinking sees it beyond mind in the realm of heart. They see Consciousness as the field in which life and universe exists and functions
Brain and its sensory inputs feeds information's and co-ordinates functioning of the body in relation to a world beyond brain and mind.
The real processing of information and order to act to specific input of information comes from the inner world and its center.
The center of inner world is the heart and its brain [AV node that controls its pulse].
The proof is that Life can exist in Brain dead state and yet do all the functions necessary for the life to exist.
Another proof is that Life and Nature is bestowed with a phase when mind is at sleep and Life Force works to repair the system.
This design is evident also in Nature in day and night and climatic cycle.
The beauty of Ancient Rishis and spiritualist is that they were taken beyond the realm of heart and its brain to a space-time field, which is source of all information, knowledge or Life Force that creates and sustains the universe eternally.
They called this Universal Consciousness and intelligence field, where Life force and intelligence exist. This Life Force is called by different names in different scriptures, Vedas call it Brahman, Bible calls it Holy Spirit, Koran calls it, al-Ruh and al-Quds, Chinese philosophy calls “Chi” and so on.''