davidm wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:14 pm
I'm rapt before Islamic art and architecture. It is perhaps the most beautiful depictions and art in the world.
Thank you my friend. I can say so far that you have an astute sense of aesthetics.
davidm wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:14 pmI also did not know about that Picasso quote on Islamic calligraphy; assuming it's true, it's quite the compliment from the greatest master of the visual arts.
Yes it says much about Islamic Calligraphy.
davidm wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:14 pmIslamic culture in general, historically, has made great contributions.
Yes, this is a very interesting and vast subject and you seem to have some knowledge of it. I appreciate and thank you for your objectivity on this. May be later, on another thread, if God wills, we might get another opportunity to exchange on this.
davidm wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:14 pmHere's what your hero Erdogan
Please, allow me my friend to clarify my position here so that I be not misunderstood. It is the word "hero" here that I think can be misinterpreted.
I have much respect for President Erdogan for what he has done; and like all Muslims, he is my brother in Islam. But I do not forget that no one has power to benefit or harm me except God, the Almighty and I put all my trust in Him alone.
Allah, The Almighty says in the Holy Quran:
And if Allah afflicts you with adversity, then none can remove it except Him, and if He intends for you any good, then none can repel His bounty. He causes it to reach whom He wills of His slaves. And He is the Oft-Forgiving, the Most Merciful. [Quran, interpretation of meaning 10:107]
If Allah helps you, then none can overcome you; and if He forsakes you, who is there who can help you after Him? And on Allah let the believers put their trust. [Quran, interpretation of meaning 3:160]
davidm wrote:He said it was "against nature" to treat men and women equally.
Can you please give some references for the statements that you made about President Erdogan? I would like to analyze its source and if it be a reliable source then in the context in which it occurred.
Anyway, I do not know if he said that, but I agree with this statement, and I would go further and add that it is not just against nature but also against common sense to treat them as the same! We should be more considerate and compassionate towards women because they are in general physically weaker than man. As I already said, women should be protected and not be expected to perform heavy duties like a man. This is common sense. Let us take the example of sports. In nearly all sports there is a category for men and one for women. For example, take tennis, if tennis was mixed, such that men and women could play singles against each other on a professional level, then Serena Williams or Martina Navratilova would never have won even one Grand Slam title! It would be unfair towards women to treat them like men. On the same line of reasoning, we do not treat children like we treat adults or the blind as the seeing, or the mentally challenged like the intelligent. This is how normal people endowed with common sense think. Does anyone here think otherwise?
davidm wrote:And education? He has banned the teaching of evolution in elementary schools.
That is good. I think at elementary school it is too soon to teach kids how to critically examine the theory of evolution. When they are mature enough intellectually, I think they should be taught how to critically address this theory. Before being able to critically examine evolution, they should be taught real science first. But I think President Erdogan has already thought of it, so there is no need for you to trouble yourself with that.
davidm wrote:This is a thread about art. I suggest you go take your crap elsewhere.
Now my friend, I think this was rude! But it is ok, I understand we all make mistakes.