Lacewing wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2017 3:36 pm
Walker wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2017 7:04 am
Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2017 11:15 pm
Perhaps we are evolving beyond certain questions. That does not mean we're losing wisdom.
For me, personally, the questions that are worth asking are why are we sure of anything and why would we NEED to be sure of anything? Doesn't that limit us? Why do we believe in so many limits? What payoffs are we getting from that? Why would ANYTHING AT ALL actually be fixed and finite? If nothing is, what are the implications? How might that change our reality? Is our reality a reflection of our own limitedness, rather than a reflection of the true extent of possibility? Can we determine the amount of structure needed to support and inspire our human bodies and minds without becoming completely and belligerently intoxicated with our creations and the creations of others?
Do you have any answers?
No
Without answers of your own, how to you manage to ascertain the truth of, or even challenge, the answers you hear?
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So if philosophy is no longer the love of wisdom, what good is it?
L: Perhaps we are evolving beyond certain questions. That does not mean we're losing wisdom.
W: - Evolving beyond certain questions means evolving into answers.
L: For me, personally, the questions that are worth asking are why are we sure of anything and why would we NEED to be sure of anything?
W: - You can only be certain that you are. All else that you know is inferred.
L: Doesn't that limit us?
W: - I don’t think so. Everyone has needs until they don’t. Attaching permanence to the self that has needs creates self-centered limitations of perspective, so that one sees the bad and not the good, and that is a limition for it is a partial meaning interpreted through ignorance.
L: Why do we believe in so many limits?
W: - Limitations are two:
- Attachment to form.
- Attachment to thought, the formless physicality.
L: What payoffs are we getting from that?
W: - The payoff is always for the life of.
L: Why would ANYTHING AT ALL actually be fixed and finite?
W: - To see the seams on the fastball, which are actually there and not created by mind. Seeing them requires the energy of attention and speed.
L: If nothing is, what are the implications?
W: - Attention fixes the moment into past mental sensory snapshots.
- The implications are in the snapshots.
L: How might that change our reality?
W: - There is only one reality.
- The perception of reality and its meaning is a moment of clarity in which the universe is suspended.
L: Is our reality a reflection of our own limitedness, rather than a reflection of the true extent of possibility?
W: - Access to total consciousness of the one reality is not a matter of five blind men feeling only their portion of the elephant in linear sequence, but rather, is analogous to simultaneous apprehension of elephant totality, as a dimension of clarity independent of time and distance.
Can we determine the amount of structure needed to support and inspire our human bodies and minds without becoming completely and belligerently intoxicated with our creations and the creations of others?
- Yes.