Announcing a new science - its name is ETHICS
Announcing a new science - its name is ETHICS
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https://www.amazon.com/LIVING-SUCCESSFU ... 83948953&s
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"LIVING SUCCESSFULLY: How the new science of Ethics will benefit you"
Writing a creepy book and selling it.
Writing a creepy book and selling it.
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Re: Announcing a new science - its name is ETHICS
Alluding to the last two entries,
is this what passes for Philosophical analysis?
....I was hoping for some good Philosophy of Science, viz., of the Science of Ethics.
Of course, that would require an acquaintance with the field of study - the new young science - before comment is made ....or is that asking too much??
is this what passes for Philosophical analysis?
....I was hoping for some good Philosophy of Science, viz., of the Science of Ethics.
Of course, that would require an acquaintance with the field of study - the new young science - before comment is made ....or is that asking too much??
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Re: Announcing a new science - its name is ETHICS
Are you Daniel McKay?
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Re: Announcing a new science - its name is ETHICS
Ethics is not a science. Science is a reproducible methodology. What you are doing is pontificating on what you think ethical standards should be, and I'll have none of it. So stuff it.prof wrote:Alluding to the last two entries,
is this what passes for Philosophical analysis?
....I was hoping for some good Philosophy of Science, viz., of the Science of Ethics.
Of course, that would require an acquaintance with the field of study - the new young science - before comment is made ....or is that asking too much??
Re: Announcing a new science - its name is ETHICS
You are not keeping up-to-date, abreast of the latest developments. Ethics is a science now. It has a reproducible methodology: the administration of tests to determine how the test-taker thinks about values, and what general conclusions can be drawn when this test is administered to thousands of councilees. The test is scored objectively by standard statistical methods. It has been validated many times, and is listed in Buro's Manual of established tests.Dalek Prime wrote: Ethics is not a science. Science is a reproducible methodology. What you are doing is pontificating on what you think ethical standards should be, and I'll have none of it. So stuff it.
Incidentally, don't you tell us what should be when you recommend that we all refrain from procreating new children? When you do that are you "pontificating"?
Is it good ethical practice to speak to people this way: "Stuff it" ?
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Of course I pontificate. At least I recognize it. And my values are still different from those of the test takers. So pardon me whilst I ignore your values, as they are not shared by me.prof wrote:You are not keeping up-to-date, abreast of the latest developments. Ethics is a science now. It has a reproducible methodology: the administration of tests to determine how the test-taker thinks about values, and what general conclusions can be drawn when this test is administered to thousands of councilees. The test is scored objectively by standard statistical methods. It has been validated many times, and is listed in Buro's Manual of established tests.Dalek Prime wrote: Ethics is not a science. Science is a reproducible methodology. What you are doing is pontificating on what you think ethical standards should be, and I'll have none of it. So stuff it.
Incidentally, don't you tell us what should be when you recommend that we all refrain from procreating new children? When you do that are you "pontificating"?
Is it good ethical practice to speak to people this way: "Stuff it" ?
My first value and priority is to keep with Kant's 'do no harm'. As harm in existence is unavoidable, every (biological) parent breaks that rule.
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... priority is to keep with Kant's 'do no harm'
Agreed.
This includes refraining from psychological abuse-such as name-calling; and from committing violence; and from participating in a war.
The book recommended for reviewing [a link to which was offered in the original post] emphasizes that priority to which you allude many times throughout the document ....which anyone who took time to read it would have noticed. It goes further, and reports on several other priorities that emerge from the empirical findings discovered by the experimenters - in the new science of Ethics.
As in every science, the more that is learned, the more questions are raised, and the more new problems arise on the forefront of the knowledge gained. As the circle of knowledge expands, the circumference of that circle - bordering on the unknown - expands proportionately.
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... priority is to keep with Kant's 'do no harm'
Agreed.
This includes refraining from psychological abuse-such as name-calling; and from committing violence; and from participating in a war.
The book recommended for reviewing [a link to which was offered in the original post] emphasizes that priority to which you allude many times throughout the document ....which anyone who took time to read it would have noticed. It goes further, and reports on several other priorities that emerge from the empirical findings discovered by the experimenters - in the new science of Ethics.
As in every science, the more that is learned, the more questions are raised, and the more new problems arise on the forefront of the knowledge gained. As the circle of knowledge expands, the circumference of that circle - bordering on the unknown - expands proportionately.
Comments? questions?
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Re: Announcing a new science - its name is ETHICS
Psychometric tests are not science. Statistics are deceiving. Psychology itself is a good candidate for pseudoscience.prof wrote:You are not keeping up-to-date, abreast of the latest developments. Ethics is a science now. It has a reproducible methodology: the administration of tests to determine how the test-taker thinks about values, and what general conclusions can be drawn when this test is administered to thousands of councilees. The test is scored objectively by standard statistical methods. It has been validated many times, and is listed in Buro's Manual of established tests.Dalek Prime wrote: Ethics is not a science. Science is a reproducible methodology. What you are doing is pontificating on what you think ethical standards should be, and I'll have none of it. So stuff it.
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Refraining from exposing others to the unavoidable harms of existence is the only complete way of remaining true to Kant's dictum. To do otherwise is to wilfully ignore the harms you are exposing a person to, and weighing harms you accept as reasonable to expose others to. You are just choosing acceptable harms. And those include the exact ones you brought up.prof wrote:
... priority is to keep with Kant's 'do no harm'
Agreed.
This includes refraining from psychological abuse-such as name-calling; and from committing violence; and from participating in a war
You have your parents to blame for being exposed to name-calling, And my parents for this specific instance. Birth is the sine qua non of all harm; name-calling, violence, war.... Everything.
And if this book is about Kant, why not just read Kant? How is this 'new science of ethics' new?
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Becoming acquainted with the claimed field of study would require buying the book and wasting the time to read it. Neither is appealing and both are too much to ask. Ethics is situational and difficult to apply controls to, so it is difficult to see how it could be considered as a science.prof wrote:Alluding to the last two entries,
is this what passes for Philosophical analysis?
....I was hoping for some good Philosophy of Science, viz., of the Science of Ethics.
Of course, that would require an acquaintance with the field of study - the new young science - before comment is made ....or is that asking too much??
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Because it is "difficult to see how," that is exactly a good reason to read the book: LIVING SUCCESSFULLY: how the new science of Ethics will benefit you.thedoc wrote:Becoming acquainted with the claimed field of study would require buying the book ... too much to ask.prof wrote:Alluding to the last two entries,
is this what passes for Philosophical analysis?
....I was hoping for some good Philosophy of Science, viz., of the Science of Ethics.
Of course, that would require an acquaintance with the field of study - the new young science - before comment is made ....or is that asking too much??
Ethics -- ...it is difficult to see how it could be considered as a science.
IF anyone here cares enough to learn, send me your email address via a private message, and if you cannot afford the eight bucks (it takes to download the book to your Kindle app) I will send you a pdf of the 113-page document free of all charge. After one reads it over, he or she will see..... The careful reader will have an entirely-new orientation on the subject; will see the logic of it all; will see how everything you know about ethics fits together, and is explained and ordered by the new paradigm. The reader will comprehend and understand how and why it is an empirical science with replicable experiments and the use of scientific methods of reasearch. {To read unsolicited reviews by purchasers, merely type in the author's name in a search box, and click on the Amazon logo to go directly to the book.}
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You are still wrong.prof wrote:Because it is "difficult to see how," that is exactly a good reason to read the book: LIVING SUCCESSFULLY: how the new science of Ethics will benefit you.thedoc wrote:Becoming acquainted with the claimed field of study would require buying the book ... too much to ask.prof wrote:Alluding to the last two entries,
is this what passes for Philosophical analysis?
....I was hoping for some good Philosophy of Science, viz., of the Science of Ethics.
Of course, that would require an acquaintance with the field of study - the new young science - before comment is made ....or is that asking too much??
Ethics -- ...it is difficult to see how it could be considered as a science.
You are fundamentally wrong from your assumptions down.
This means that all your conclusions are false.
Re: Announcing a new science - its name is ETHICS
No, I'm not.BradburyPound wrote:Are you Daniel McKay?
Who is he?
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Please direct me to a link about him. Maybe I'll learn something.......