duszek wrote:ken wrote:That what is true is truth.
We all could only agree on that what is true.
That what we all agree on is truth.
Before Copernicus everybody agreed on the earth being flat and the center of the universe and the sun going around it.
But it was not true.
Are you absolutely sure that everybody agreed?
If so, how are you sure of this "fact", were you one of those bodies around at that time?
I would think some people had no idea and some others had never thought about either.
Before copernicus is after all a fairly long time period.
duszek wrote:We all = we all including all the future generations of humans ?
We, of today, do not know what future generations of humans are going to agree upon. So 'we all' =
all people at any particular point in time.
I had pointed out previously, obviously all people could agree on something that is not truth BUT if all people are agreeing, then there is no person disagreeing, so then there is no one to dispute its truth. That is why there is the proviso added: as long as we remain open to the fact that the truth could change. Therefore even if everyone is agreeing, at any given point in time, the best thing to do is still remain open. As most of us already know, truths have been known to change.
Also, if and when 'we all',
human beings agreed on anything, then this will not give us universal truths. Humans can only give what are truths to humans. Human truths can easily be distorted from universal truths. In order to gain universal truths we need agreement from ALL things. ALL = everything. Agreement from everything can only be gained from everything's perspective. Be able to look and see from everything's perspective is needed to understand this universal truth.