How abstract can math get and still be useful?
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How abstract can math get and still be useful?
There are different levels of abstraction to math, one reason being is to generalize it to cover a wider area. It's natural to ask how far can one take this? If there are limitations, does this imply there's only so much we can know in math?
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Re: How abstract can math get and still be useful?
Bloody yanks and your Manglish. It's mathS!
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And this IS a philosophy forum. Care to discuss?vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Bloody yanks and your Manglish. It's mathS!
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Yes, that's excatly what it is, and you not doing philosophy!Philosophy Explorer wrote:And this IS a philosophy forum. Care to discuss?
You are only asking silly questions to get attention and a cozy chat for attention sake!
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Ask Veg a question and look what crawls out of the woodwork. Good ole Hex. Cozy chat, silly questions. The limit of your vocabulary. The question is why do you keep coming to my threads? To harass me as you have no interest in doing philosophy on them?HexHammer wrote:Yes, that's excatly what it is, and you not doing philosophy!Philosophy Explorer wrote:And this IS a philosophy forum. Care to discuss?
You are only asking silly questions to get attention and a cozy chat for attention sake!
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I haven't seen you discuss anything so far. You just post random questions and then run away.Philosophy Explorer wrote:Ask Veg a question and look what crawls out of the woodwork. Good ole Hex. Cozy chat, silly questions. The limit of your vocabulary. The question is why do you keep coming to my threads? To harass me as you have no interest in doing philosophy on them?HexHammer wrote:Yes, that's excatly what it is, and you not doing philosophy!Philosophy Explorer wrote:And this IS a philosophy forum. Care to discuss?
You are only asking silly questions to get attention and a cozy chat for attention sake!
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I haven't seen you discuss anything so far. You just post random questions and then run away.[/quote]
With respect to "running away", I look at all posts on my threads and if I'm knowledgeable and have something to contribute or have a question, then I'll respond. With random questions, far more interesting than the same question; if your complaint is I post too much which is what I suspect you mean, then how much is too much? There's always plenty to discuss. If you don't like the topic, then put up some threads of your own on what you do like to talk about.
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With respect to "running away", I look at all posts on my threads and if I'm knowledgeable and have something to contribute or have a question, then I'll respond. With random questions, far more interesting than the same question; if your complaint is I post too much which is what I suspect you mean, then how much is too much? There's always plenty to discuss. If you don't like the topic, then put up some threads of your own on what you do like to talk about.
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This!vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I haven't seen you discuss anything so far. You just post random questions and then run away.
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The same goes for you Hex.HexHammer wrote:This!vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I haven't seen you discuss anything so far. You just post random questions and then run away.
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Are there? How so?Philosophy Explorer wrote:There are different levels of abstraction to math, ...
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In the 16th century someone created imaginary numbers, and then 3 centuries later it was not just useful it was fundamental to all science. How abstract can it get and still be useful ask me in 300 years.
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This is a blatant lie, I've given long and forfilling answers, and this only proves you have never read my answers, but only come here to to get attention and run away just like vegetariantaxidermy says.Philosophy Explorer wrote:The same goes for you Hex.HexHammer wrote:This!vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I haven't seen you discuss anything so far. You just post random questions and then run away.
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Hex said:
"This is a blatant lie, I've given long and forfilling answers, and this only proves you have never read my answers, but only come here to to get attention and run away just like vegetariantaxidermy says."
Not on my threads you haven't (btw it's fulfilling, not forfilling - get a spellchecker which are free and I may be induced to post responses to my own threads).
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"This is a blatant lie, I've given long and forfilling answers, and this only proves you have never read my answers, but only come here to to get attention and run away just like vegetariantaxidermy says."
Not on my threads you haven't (btw it's fulfilling, not forfilling - get a spellchecker which are free and I may be induced to post responses to my own threads).
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Prove it!Philosophy Explorer wrote:Hex said:
"This is a blatant lie, I've given long and forfilling answers, and this only proves you have never read my answers, but only come here to to get attention and run away just like vegetariantaxidermy says."
Not on my threads you haven't
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Re: How abstract can math get and still be useful?
I'm sure that Blaggard would be familiar with the following.
We have the factorial. A few examples are:
4! = 4•3•2•1 = 24
3! = 3•2•1 = 6
2! = 2•1 = 2
1! = 1 = 1
I'm sure you see the pattern. What would surprise many people is that the factorial can be extended in a consistent way. For example 0! = 1 (can you define 1/2! in a consistent manner?) In fact the factorial makes sense except for negative integers.
The point I'm making is that restricting the meaning of numbers may have inhibited math progress (as Blaggard has pointed with the so-called imaginary numbers). Still one has to wonder whether there's a limit to abstract math.
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We have the factorial. A few examples are:
4! = 4•3•2•1 = 24
3! = 3•2•1 = 6
2! = 2•1 = 2
1! = 1 = 1
I'm sure you see the pattern. What would surprise many people is that the factorial can be extended in a consistent way. For example 0! = 1 (can you define 1/2! in a consistent manner?) In fact the factorial makes sense except for negative integers.
The point I'm making is that restricting the meaning of numbers may have inhibited math progress (as Blaggard has pointed with the so-called imaginary numbers). Still one has to wonder whether there's a limit to abstract math.
PhilX