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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by johngalthasspoken » Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:12 am

reasonvemotion wrote: You are so narrow minded about sex. To you it is nasty. If a woman enjoys it, why she must be a ho. What were you taught about sex, or did you get all from those porno mags under your bed in mom's basement.

All i'm saying is that we should teach kids to wait at-least they become of legal age,to have sex..for Christ sake, let kids be kids.we are teaching them far too much far too early.and i know that you females are all about sex & relationships, your entire self worth is based upon it. and i certainly don't give a flying fu*k if you parade around the street naked giving blowjobs to random strangers or if you turned out to be the village bicycle, but keep this in mind, at the end of the day, we men, have to foot the bill for all your welfare & entitlement programs,and it's no secret that single mothers have been a drain on the welfare state for decades. and i sincerely hope you never have any kids.

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by SecularCauses » Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:19 am

johngalthasspoken wrote:
reasonvemotion wrote: You are so narrow minded about sex. To you it is nasty. If a woman enjoys it, why she must be a ho. What were you taught about sex, or did you get all from those porno mags under your bed in mom's basement.

All i'm saying is that we should teach kids to wait at-least they become of legal age,to have sex..for Christ sake, let kids be kids.we are teaching them far too much far too early.and i know that you females are all about sex & relationships, your entire self worth is based upon it. and i certainly don't give a flying fu*k if you parade around the street naked giving blowjobs to random strangers or if you turned out to be the village bicycle, but keep this in mind, at the end of the day, we men, have to foot the bill for all your welfare & entitlement programs,and it's no secret that single mothers have been a drain on the welfare state for decades. and i sincerely hope you never have any kids.
But what if the kid is really good at having sex? Why should we deny the kid's talent?

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by reasonvemotion » Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:49 am

All i'm saying is that we should teach kids to wait at-least they become of legal age,to have sex..for Christ sake, let kids be kids.we are teaching them far too much far too early.and i know that you females are all about sex & relationships, your entire self worth is based upon it. and i certainly don't give a flying fu*k if you parade around the street naked giving blowjobs to random strangers or if you turned out to be the village bicycle, but keep this in mind, at the end of the day, we men, have to foot the bill for all your welfare & entitlement programs,and it's no secret that single mothers have been a drain on the welfare state for decades. and i sincerely hope you never have any kids.

Some feminists and men like yourself regard sex and certain types of art as degrading, but this should not be. What is your reaction when you visit an art gallery and see paintings of nude women or perhaps photographic studies of nude men or women? Is it disgust or can you appreciate the beauty of a human being. Sex doesnt begin when a person becomes of age, does that mean 18?, even infants are curious about their bodies. Sex and or sensuality can be enjoyed by both men and women. equally, so why should it be one sided or degrading.

Dont ask what you yourself cannot deliver. Did you wait until you were 18?

An after thought. I have never advocated under age girls/boys to have children, obviously you have not read my comments on that. I am against that.

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by johngalthasspoken » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:23 am

reasonvemotion wrote:Some feminists and men like yourself regard sex and certain types of art as degrading, but this should not be
:shock: you're putting words in my mouth. i never said sex was bad.

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by reasonvemotion » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:30 am

If you can answer yes, I waited, then your argument has some validity.

Dont ask what you yourself cannot deliver. Did you wait until you were 18?

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by johngalthasspoken » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:48 am

17 and it was with my girlfriend at the time.she wanted to wait & i respected that..these days it's not uncommon to see 13 year old's smoking weed and having sex.

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by reasonvemotion » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:50 am

Human Evolution: A History of Sex

Evidence that people have been promiscuous for a long time

LOTHARIOS everywhere will be pleased to hear that monogamy does not appear to be a natural human state. That, at least, is the conclusion of a study conducted by Michael Hammer at the University of Arizona in Tucson, and just published in Nature Genetics. By examining the DNA of living people, Dr Hammer and his colleagues have found that far fewer men than women pass their genes on to subsequent generations. ...

The most plausible explanation for this is that a few men in each generation contribute the bulk of the Y-chromosomes to the next. Indeed, the sums suggest that, over the years, half as many men as women have passed on their genes. This news will not surprise biologists. Although a moment's thought shows the old canard that males are actually, on average, more promiscuous than females cannot be true (since every reproductive act involves one of each) biologists have known for a long time that in most species males want to be more promiscuous than females. What holds them back is that females are choosy. And females also tend to be similar in their tastes, which means some males get chosen far more often than others, and therefore have more offspring. Females, by contrast, tend to have about the same number of offspring each.

http://www.economist.com/science/displa ... id=3219879
The Economist, Sep 23rd 2004

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by johngalthasspoken » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:43 am

nothing new... obviously monogamy is not a natural state of affairs for humans.but it was monogamy that made the civilization we live in , possible.promiscuity is detrimental to civilization and when monogamy goes away,so does civilization.

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by reasonvemotion » Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:33 am

JohnG
Dont ask what you yourself cannot deliver. Did you wait until you were 18?
17
I rest my case.



You are repeating what most people say, when they become adults. Childen of "today" ............

I think violence, hard core drugs and disease are the most terrifying threats for human beings. If children's parents are interested in them and keep tabs on their friends and where they go, most will pass through teenage years, relatively unscathed. They may whine and complain about a parent's "interference" but it is necessary to make sure they are safe. Especially females.

'Natural selection, it seems, often smiles on strumpets,' says evolutionary biologist Olivia Judson, 'As a rule, loose females have more and healthier children.' ... On the surface, the conventional view made sense. Sperm seemed to come cheap to males, while eggs were expensive to females, which have to invest the time to raise offspring. ...

Biologists have struggled to come up with broad theories for why females benefit from playing the field, but so far the reasons seem to vary widely according to species. A lot of complex theory boils down to this: A gal's got to do what's necessary to ensure the survival of her genes. In some cases, females may get more help around the home. In other cases, females swap sex for food - the more sex, the more food and the healthier their offspring. Promiscuity can also simply be a matter of survival. Male chimpanzees, for example, have been known to kill infants not their own. Frequent sex with several males can confuse paternity and act as insurance against harm to her offspring."

Carol Cruzan Morton, Special to The Chronicle, Monday, February 17, 2003


So the obvious question arises .....How do we determine the truth of our human sexuality.

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by johngalthasspoken » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:11 am

hmmmm, 16 is the legal age of consent over here... the topic of this discussion is "Teen Pregnancy", and the best way to avoid teenage pregnancy is to abstain from sex until the legal age of consent.
reasonvemotion wrote:I think violence, hard core drugs and disease are the most terrifying threats for human beings
why do you think violence is a "terrifying" threat for human beings? I'm really tired of humanitarians talking about violence as if it is opposed to human nature. Civilization merely forces humans to turn their instincts for cruelty, hostility and hunting against themselves. It creates that bad conscience. Violence is a very human phenomenon. Without the repressive nature of the law, violence is a very common and acceptable feature of human society. satyr put it very eloquently "When you denounce war and violence and superior/inferior and male competitiveness, you are, in fact, denouncing all the elements that made humans dominant in the animal kingdom.That you worship peace,love,brotherhood, humanity,altruism, oneness,is an indication that you now want to change the rules that made you possible, thinking that this will not change anything other than it will make things "better"


reasonvemotion wrote:'Natural selection, it seems, often smiles on strumpets,' says evolutionary biologist Olivia Judson, 'As a rule, loose females have more and healthier children.' ... On the surface, the conventional view made sense. Sperm seemed to come cheap to males, while eggs were expensive to females, which have to invest the time to raise offspring. ...

Biologists have struggled to come up with broad theories for why females benefit from playing the field, but so far the reasons seem to vary widely according to species. A lot of complex theory boils down to this: A gal's got to do what's necessary to ensure the survival of her genes. In some cases, females may get more help around the home. In other cases, females swap sex for food - the more sex, the more food and the healthier their offspring. Promiscuity can also simply be a matter of survival. Male chimpanzees, for example, have been known to kill infants not their own. Frequent sex with several males can confuse paternity and act as insurance against harm to her offspring."

Carol Cruzan Morton, Special to The Chronicle, Monday, February 17, 2003


So the obvious question arises .....How do we determine the truth of our human sexuality.
like i said earlier, females have no value besides sex. women = men-(intelligence+integrity)..and i did a google search on this "olivia judson",a supposed evolutionary biologist. and she comes off as yet another pretentious pseudo intellectual ,she's written some of the most ridiculous articles i've ever come across.. "Survival of the Kindest" ,"the selfless gene" ? :lol: well, she's a woman after-all

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:18 am

johngalthasspoken wrote:hmmmm, 16 is the legal age of consent over here... the topic of this discussion is "Teen Pregnancy", and the best way to avoid teenage pregnancy is to abstain from sex until the legal age of consent.
reasonvemotion wrote:I think violence, hard core drugs and disease are the most terrifying threats for human beings
why do you think violence is a "terrifying" threat for human beings? I'm really tired of humanitarians talking about violence as if it is opposed to human nature. Civilization merely forces humans to turn their instincts for cruelty, hostility and hunting against themselves. It creates that bad conscience. Violence is a very human phenomenon. Without the repressive nature of the law, violence is a very common and acceptable feature of human society. satyr put it very eloquently "When you denounce war and violence and superior/inferior and male competitiveness, you are, in fact, denouncing all the elements that made humans dominant in the animal kingdom.That you worship peace,love,brotherhood, humanity,altruism, oneness,is an indication that you now want to change the rules that made you possible, thinking that this will not change anything other than it will make things "better"


reasonvemotion wrote:'Natural selection, it seems, often smiles on strumpets,' says evolutionary biologist Olivia Judson, 'As a rule, loose females have more and healthier children.' ... On the surface, the conventional view made sense. Sperm seemed to come cheap to males, while eggs were expensive to females, which have to invest the time to raise offspring. ...

Biologists have struggled to come up with broad theories for why females benefit from playing the field, but so far the reasons seem to vary widely according to species. A lot of complex theory boils down to this: A gal's got to do what's necessary to ensure the survival of her genes. In some cases, females may get more help around the home. In other cases, females swap sex for food - the more sex, the more food and the healthier their offspring. Promiscuity can also simply be a matter of survival. Male chimpanzees, for example, have been known to kill infants not their own. Frequent sex with several males can confuse paternity and act as insurance against harm to her offspring."

Carol Cruzan Morton, Special to The Chronicle, Monday, February 17, 2003


So the obvious question arises .....How do we determine the truth of our human sexuality.
like i said earlier, females have no value besides sex. women = men-(intelligence+integrity)..and i did a google search on this "olivia judson",a supposed evolutionary biologist. and she comes off as yet another pretentious pseudo intellectual ,she's written some of the most ridiculous articles i've ever come across.. "Survival of the Kindest" ,"the selfless gene" ? :lol: well, she's a woman after-all

Of course, all women are exactly the same as each other and all men are exactly the same as each other. You are such a cretin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by johngalthasspoken » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:27 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Of course, all women are exactly the same as each other and all men are exactly the same as each other. You are such a cretin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Huh?

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by reasonvemotion » Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:23 pm

Well JohnG, my question was did you wait until 18, I asked you twice. You did not reveal 16.

When I refered to violence, I should have stated specifically, which violence. I was thinking more domestic violence, violence against children. Violence should not be embraced as a form of expression. I don't care what Satyr "says" and there is nothing unique or original in what he has to contribute. It has all been said before. It would be in your best interests to realise this. The unhealthy aspect of Satyr is he tries to indoctrinate younger men into being disillusioned with the world as it is today. Instead, a man of 36 should be basking in the delights the world has to offer him. It is totally unnecessary to watch a home made video explaining evolution and sex made by Satyr. It is far wiser to have experience rather than theory on that topic and bond to a woman that can give you the intimacy and affection that is naturally and rightfully yours to have and to give and enjoy. It is obvious you have yet to meet this woman, but if and when you do, you won't want to buy a baby, you will be begging her to have a baby with YOU and what a joy this will be.

This is all conjecture, I dont know a damn thing about you :) so fire away.

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by Kayla » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:05 pm

johngalthasspoken wrote:17 and it was with my girlfriend at the time.she wanted to wait & i respected that..these days it's not uncommon to see 13 year old's smoking weed and having sex.
if you are watching 13 year olds having sex there is something majorly wrong with you

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Re: Teen Pregnancy

Post by johngalthasspoken » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:12 pm

trying to be clever ei? nitwits , i often see kids around my neighborhood smoking pot.. it's not me saying this,the surveys reveal kids are having sex way too early.

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