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Re: Misogyny

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Atthet wrote:
uwot wrote:When somebody tries to seduce you, you can say no.
No, if the seduction is effective, then the person being seduced will not realize he or she is being seduced. You moron? A successful seduction is undetectable, and does not give the one being seduced a choice, you turd?
Ok then, when you come home from work and your wife greets you in a suspender belt, stockings and stilettos and a black lacy push-up bra you had better call the police, because she's going to rape you. Or maybe you will be rendered blind first by the hideousness of the sight.
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I like this line of thinking, wowow is suggesting that a victim of seduction can "choose" to be smarter, and more intelligent than the seducer. A victim can "choose" to be smart, or stupid, apparently.
I'd ask wowow more details about how this "choice" is made, but, I fear he's reached his mental limits already. Wowow should meditate on this stupidity, this lack of common sense, and return an answer tomorrow.
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Re: Misogyny

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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Ok then, when you come home from work and your wife greets you in a suspender belt, stockings and stilettos and a black lacy push-up bra you had better call the police, because she's going to rape you. Or maybe you will be rendered blind first by the hideousness of the sight.
That depends if you're my wife in this example, veggy? I want you to wear the red lacy push-up bra, not the black one!
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Atthet wrote:
uwot wrote:being seduced has a choice
How is seducing somebody giving them a choice?
Seduction is persuasion.
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A man, employing the sixty-four means mentioned by Babhravya, obtains his object, and enjoys the woman of the first quality. Though he may speak well on other subjects, if he does not know the sixty-four divisions, no great respect is paid to him in the assembly of the learned. A man, devoid of other knowledge, but well acquainted with the sixty-four divisions, becomes a leader in any society of men and women. What man will not respect the sixty-four arts, considering they are respected by the learned, by the cunning, and by the courtesans. As the sixty-four arts are respected, are charming, and add to the talent of women, they are called by the Acharyas dear to women. A man skilled in the sixty-four arts is looked upon with love by his own wife, by the wives of others, and by courtesans.

The Kama Sutra of Vatsayayana, Sir Richard Burton, translator (1883)
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Ok then, when you come home from work and your wife greets you in a suspender belt, stockings and stilettos and a black lacy push-up bra you had better call the police, because she's going to rape you. Or maybe you will be rendered blind first by the hideousness of the sight.
I did come home to that sight last week, but it was your home and your wife.
She was not too bad.
How's your sister?
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When we persuade we dominate.

The weaker mind is persuaded by a superior awareness.

Besides, you nit-wits, seduction is about pretense...see peacock.

It's all hyperbole, you sad fucks....lies.

Males exaggerate their qualities, females evolve the ability to see through bullshit...males one-up their tactics by buying into their own bullshit to be more convincing.

And life goes on.

Cowardly liberal fags...a short synopsis:

Fight/Flight is the first binary (re)action to an unknown otherness.
Later, when heterosexual reproduction develops, we get the necessity for tolerance of those the organism would fight or flee from.
Nature evolves the mechanism: instinct, hormonal inebriation...later becoming emotion.
A mind-numbing bio-drug meant to numb, sooth, comfort, cloud reason, so as to make heterosexual copulation possible.
At this point the organism are driven by blind instinct...no consciousness of self.
It behaves at time in ways which are detrimental to its immediate well-being, so as to make the genetic longer-term horizon possible.
Genes evolve to replicate themselves...the organism, this generalization where all liberal twats wish to stop at, is but a mechanism for facilitating this.
We might consider it, metaphysically speaking, a (re)action to increasing disordering; an ordering in the disordering.

Later, specialized roles develop....enabling social cooperation, taking advantage of synergy.
This closer (inter)action is itself made possible through emotional inebriation.
A compromise due to the particular individual's inability to survive on its own.

But back to sex.
Copulation, as we know it, is a reproductive method made possible through specialized roles. Roles that, in time, evolve the attributes, both physical and mental, to carry out this role. Of course, it being relatively new and unstable, since it uses chemical methods to overcome already establishes instinctual(re)actions, it often goes haywire or it develops mutations which result in unfit sexual proclivities: paraphilia...including homosexuality which is not excluded form this "category" for obvious reasons.
These mutations are parasitical in that they cannot replicate themselves but depend on another method to replicate.
In some cases these sexual aberrations serve a social purpose, like enabling the integration of more males within the group, as stable, effete contributors the the dominant pairs breeding...take homosexuality as an example of a sexual unfit aberration becoming more acceptable in an overpopulated and resource strained world.
It's a form of hormonal castration.

Now, with the female her issues are multiple. She must tolerate a foreign body within her body...she must gestate it...and then she must ween it.
The female has to have the physical and mental attributes necessary to carry out this role successfully.
That she is "female" means she accepts her sexual role...otherwise she should give-up the label of female altogether. In modern times the role is altered by redefining it in accordance with current morals and systemic requirements. A form of social eugenics, the common twat, calls "education" or "civility" or "modern" or "progress"...newspeak for redefining natural roles...intervening upon natural processes.
As such a female is tolerant, more docile, more submissive, more overcome by emotion...more interested in socials stability and harmony and uniformity...because this makes her reproductive role easier.

The sexual act is made possible by tricking the brain, a brain evolved for hundreds of thousands of years with particular (re)actions to stimuli.
First she must be calmed enough to accept penetration...an intrusion upon her very being. Then her autoimmune system must be tricked so as to accept the sperm and then the embryo for the time required to mature it.


To convince, is to impregnate an other's mind with an idea.
It is a form of penetrating his/her mind, overcoming resistance and seeding it. The seed will grow in accordance to that particular mind's own qualities...ergo heterosexuality becomes a memetic technique.
Someone of the same methods are also used...rhetoric, insinuation, hyperbole, manipulation.
Whether what we are trying to convince him/her is good/bad, in our own view, what is, sometimes, necessary is that we trick them by manipulating their emotions, pretending to be like them, less threatening, more altruistic, caring...etc.

Memes are extensions of genes.
They use codes to generalize/simplify past experiences, interactions (nurturing) so as to pass them on to the other.
The same penetration, seduction, gestation, birth and weening processes are reflections of genetic processes.
Even the types, the specialized kinds of brains developing from different memes can be witnessed: masculine and feminine dispositions, outlooks,, attitudes resulting in more masculine or more feminine cultures.

Feminine cultures are more hedonistic, materialistic, shallow, superficial.
Sex becomes a central aspect of their identity, as the feminine can only find value in replicating genes or memes.
Females just want to fit in, belong...surrender to whatever status quo dominates. Women want to add to the stability of the given, they wish to strengthen it and to contribute to the self-evident, the popular, the common. Within the premises they accept they find self-worth.

Masculine cultures are more challenging, dominating, ordering.
Sex becomes a means to an end and the end is an Ideal.
Males always confront the given the authority, the status quo, wanting to replace it with their own. This makes them destructive but also constructive, always thinking outside the box, outside authorities and what is taken for granted as "self-evident".
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Indeed. :D
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BrainWashing

1 Gender
2 Parental Effect
3 Gay/Straight
4 Violence
5 Sex
6 Race
7 Nature vs. Nurture


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Hegel, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich wrote:• It is not our concern to become acquainted with the land occupied by nations as an external locale, but with the natural type of the locality, as intimately connected with the type and character of the people which is offspring of such soil (1956:79-80).

• With respect to the diversity of races of mankind it must be remembered first of all that the purely historical question, whether all these races sprang from a single pair of human beings or from several, is of no concern whatever to us in philosophy. Importance was attached to this question because it was believed that by assuming decent from several couples, the mental and spiritual superiority of one race over another could be explained, indeed, it was hoped to prove that human beings are by nature so differently endowed with mental or spiritual capacities that some can be dominated like animals. But decent affords no ground for granting or denying freedom to human beings. Man is implicitly rational; herein lies the possibility of equal justice for all men and the futility of a rigid distinction between races which have rights and those which have none. The difference between the races of mankind is…a difference which, in the first instance, concerns the natural soul. As such, the difference is connected with the geographical differences of those parts of the world where human beings are gathered together in masses (1971:41).

Some conflict on the YouTube community regarding Evolution Theory.

Realists vs. Liberal Twats

EvoGen here is the Liberal Twat.

Heritability

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Liberal Twat versus Scientists
You know which side you belong to.

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I think some of the more vocal liberal retards on this forum will recognize themselves in this polemic.
Why egalitarians Lie...so MUCH!

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Egalitarian Tactics (War on Common Sense)

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Race and I.Q. - Egalitarianism Destroyed (LebertarianRealist vs. EvoGen) ...or Realist versus Liberal Twat.

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Richard Lynn explains Eugenics and Dysgenics

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Dr. William Shockley on Race, I.Q., and Eugenics

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Hans Eysenck on Race and I.Q.

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Lunatic Fringe Episode 009 - The Way of Men

Part of the Backlash:
Men of the West...

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Love the cigarette and drink effect.
A bit pretentious but aware.
Is Race Realism Racism?

Fight Club & C.S. Lewis
Lewis Vs Palahniuk Pt 2: Food Porn and Making Love
Feminism: Gender is Genetic

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One for the laaaadies out there. Especially those with a penis.

Male Disposability

The human species is funny.
I love just watching them go....and go.
Men not marrying? How deep does "the problem" go?

Fempocalypse!!

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How feminism was supported and Freud was "overcome"...
Century of Self

Marketing proving, with Bernays, how "complex" and "unique" the average really and truly is.

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Re: Misogyny

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Satyr wrote:BrainWashing

1 Gender
2 Parental Effect
3 Gay/Straight
4 Violence
5 Sex
6 Race
7 Nature vs. Nurture

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Making a new ploy for personal brain re-cycling,
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Re: Misogyny

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See...right there...right there, is where you give yourself away, you imbecile.
This is where your stupidity becomes obvious to someone like me.
At this point everything you've said about what diplomas you have, what cars you drive, how many kids you have, what accolades your system has endowed you with, become inconsequential.
This is where your name-dropping, your social posturing, your systemic status, becomes equivalent to stating your wealth or how many children you have or how many books you've read or what mechanical toys you've managed to purchase.
This, you dumb turd, is where you soul becomes naked to a poor, innocent, ignorant, woodland creature like me.

No turd...I'm adapting to the environment.

Moron...when amongst imbeciles the complex is lost...so you must talk-down to them.
It takes me 15 minutes to write one of these posts, why would I waste more time on them for idiots, like you and your kind?

Amongst regurgitating cows, and bovine of all types, one wastes his time by offering them personal perspectives.

To robots and automatons one would be foolish to offer anything other than what they can comprehend and be impressed by: authority figures, famous names, quotes, official looking vids...etc.

Any more questions, imbecile...or will you now teach me about Evolution Theory or, better yet, tell me about philosophy.
If you are interested, beyond your penis, then here is a link:
Encapsulation of Satyr's Views
Tear me apart, imbecile. Use the entire panoply of your formal edumucation.
Remember, turd, a mind that truly understands simplifies...whereas one that does not really understands, obfuscates, and clouds his confusion is words and unwarranted complexities, easily produced by words....and semantics.

No, you imbecile, not Leotard and his libidinal ejaculations, but your opinions.
Tell me something about the world you see.
Do you dare?

Do you see anything, or are you living a solipsistic life, where the only contact with the world is via a proxy, authorized, for you, by the communal decree?
Who the fuck cares what you think of Lyotard or what position you take on Derrida or how you react to Marx, you dumb fuck?

Do you actually have a position of your own, referenced, guided, informed by others, but your own, you stupid fuck?
Can you explain it using your own words, or do you need to remain loyal to the script because ad-libbing is too creative for your tiny, institutionalized mind to handle? ?
If not...fuck off and go munch on some more fodder...you stupid fuck.
You expect me to give you personal stuff when all you talk about or dare to talk about is the official doctrine?

Every age, you imbecile, has had, so called, intellectuals, mouthing the modern age's, the current myths, common beliefs.
Why do you assume you are different?

Best you keep with wotwot and docdoc and their 'God' delusions and 'categories say nothing about me', religion.
Do not think I will waste my time on cows.

I am a Satyr...do you know what that means?
My name is not Satyr...I AM a Satyr.
Silenus is my King.

Have you understood yet?

Turd...explain how Natural Selection is NOT part of Evolution Theory....then place it in conflict with MY views. not what you think I am saying but what I am saying.
If you cannot then your earlier bravado can be explained easily, no?

Be more creative than the turd who used semantics like the subtlety in definition between "bachelor and unmarried", turning the order around, to defend her delusion that categories say nothing about her or anyone; wanting to preserve the delusion that she is far too "complex" to be categorized or understood sensually.
Be more courageous than those turds who caricature a position, straw-maning it, by reducing it to one element...like "color".

Be a man...turd...do you remember what that is?
Face the challenge like a man...mono-a-mono.
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Re: Misogyny

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Satyr wrote:
I am a Satyr...do you know what that means?
My name is not Satyr...I AM a Satyr.
Silenus is my King.
Do you know what a mirror is? Can you look in one and say the above out loud?
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Satyr wrote:See...right there...right there, is where you give yourself away, you imbecile.
This is where your stupidity becomes obvious to someone like me.
At this point everything you've said about what diplomas you have, what cars you drive, how many kids you have, what accolades your system has endowed you with, become inconsequential.
This is where your name-dropping, your social posturing, your systemic status, becomes equivalent to stating your wealth or how many children you have or how many books you've read or what mechanical toys you've managed to purchase.
This, you dumb turd, is where you soul becomes naked to a poor, innocent, ignorant, woodland creature like me.

No turd...I'm adapting to the environment.

Moron...when amongst imbeciles the complex is lost...so you must talk-down to them.
It takes me 15 minutes to write one of these posts, why would I waste more time on them for idiots, like you and your kind?

Amongst regurgitating cows, and bovine of all types, one wastes his time by offering them personal perspectives.

To robots and automatons one would be foolish to offer anything other than what they can comprehend and be impressed by: authority figures, famous names, quotes, official looking vids...etc.

Any more questions, imbecile...or will you now teach me about Evolution Theory or, better yet, tell me about philosophy.
If you are interested, beyond your penis, then here is a link:
Encapsulation of Satyr's Views
Tear me apart, imbecile. Use the entire panoply of your formal edumucation.
Remember, turd, a mind that truly understands simplifies...whereas one that does not really understands, obfuscates, and clouds his confusion is words and unwarranted complexities, easily produced by words....and semantics.

No, you imbecile, not Leotard and his libidinal ejaculations, but your opinions.
Tell me something about the world you see.
Do you dare?

Do you see anything, or are you living a solipsistic life, where the only contact with the world is via a proxy, authorized, for you, by the communal decree?
Who the fuck cares what you think of Lyotard or what position you take on Derrida or how you react to Marx, you dumb fuck?

Do you actually have a position of your own, referenced, guided, informed by others, but your own, you stupid fuck?
Can you explain it using your own words, or do you need to remain loyal to the script because ad-libbing is too creative for your tiny, institutionalized mind to handle? ?
If not...fuck off and go munch on some more fodder...you stupid fuck.
You expect me to give you personal stuff when all you talk about or dare to talk about is the official doctrine?

Every age, you imbecile, has had, so called, intellectuals, mouthing the modern age's, the current myths, common beliefs.
Why do you assume you are different?

Best you keep with wotwot and docdoc and their 'God' delusions and 'categories say nothing about me', religion.
Do not think I will waste my time on cows.

I am a Satyr...do you know what that means?
My name is not Satyr...I AM a Satyr.
Silenus is my King.

Have you understood yet?

Turd...explain how Natural Selection is NOT part of Evolution Theory....then place it in conflict with MY views. not what you think I am saying but what I am saying.
If you cannot then your earlier bravado can be explained easily, no?

Be more creative than the turd who used semantics like the subtlety in definition between "bachelor and unmarried", turning the order around, to defend her delusion that categories say nothing about her or anyone; wanting to preserve the delusion that she is far too "complex" to be categorized or understood sensually.
Be more courageous than those turds who caricature a position, straw-maning it, by reducing it to one element...like "color".

Be a man...turd...do you remember what that is?
Face the challenge like a man...mono-a-mono.
You are living proof that when one lives in one's momma's basement until 50, one develops psychological problems. There is a cure though -- get a job.
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Atthet wrote:I like this line of thinking, wowow is suggesting that a victim of seduction
A victim of seduction? Well let's stop there and look at this; you weeping dicks at BlowThyself wring your hands and whimper about how horrible women who might want to fuck you are. That's because any woman you have met that is prepared to tolerate pathological tossers like you is mental. You keep bleating about alpha males, do you seriously think they waste their lives whingeing?
Atthet wrote:wowow is suggesting that a victim of seductioncan "choose" to be smarter, and more intelligent than the seducer. A victim can "choose" to be smart, or stupid, apparently.
You haven no choice in the matter, you are spectacularly stupid. What you can choose, even given your intellectual hinderances, is to say yes or no to being seduced. If you are too stupid to understand what is happening to you, your faecal genes will be put out of their misery with your demise.
Atthet wrote:I'd ask wowow more details about how this "choice" is made, but, I fear he's reached his mental limits already.
Nobody gets to choose how smart or stupid they are; clearly you didn't. You choose whether you want to fuck the seductress in the red push up bra and Satyr mask or not.
Atthet wrote:Wowow should meditate on this stupidity, this lack of common sense, and return an answer tomorrow.
Actually, it's still today on this side of the Atlantic, ask Satyr how that works.
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Re: Misogyny

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According to wowwow, being seduced is being given a choice.
But is it still seduction if it is detected by the victim?
Isn't the art and beauty of seduction, is that it remains undetected by the victim?
What is seduction after being detected?

Let's wait to hear the master, wowow, on this point
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