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Re: Erotic v Pornographic

Post by chaz wyman » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:37 am

reasonvemotion wrote:
We live in a society that craves "instant gratification" and this is where the how and the why have been pushed aside in favor of the "outcome", the "end result"

Are your eyes wide shut.
Indeed, it would seem that Bill is trapped in that culture.

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"We live in a society that craves "instant gratification"

Post by henry quirk » Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:11 pm

Again: 'Making 'today' different (from any other 'day') how?'

Few ever walk the wildnerness alone (by choice).

Same as it ever was... :|

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Re: Erotic v Pornographic

Post by reasonvemotion » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:06 pm

Few ever walk the wilderness alone (by choice)
Yet it would be their duty to bear it, if they could not avoid it

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Post by henry quirk » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:41 pm

"Yet it would be their duty to bear it, if they could not avoid it"

Nah, what I foist up on 'me' is mine; what *someone else foists up on me is there to resist.

'Duty' ain't got nuthin' to do with nuthin'.









*or 'something' as in 'circumstance'.

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Post by chaz wyman » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:20 pm

henry quirk wrote:"Yet it would be their duty to bear it, if they could not avoid it"

Nah, what I foist up on 'me' is mine; what *someone else foists up on me is there to resist.

'Duty' ain't got nuthin' to do with nuthin'.


*or 'something' as in 'circumstance'.
Just because you assert a self directed life, does not mean "duty ain't naffink".
You decide the limits of your personal deontology; you create your personal duties.

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Re: Erotic v Pornographic

Post by henry quirk » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:28 pm

Point taken, Chaz.

And still: Reason's "Yet it would be their duty to bear it, if they could not avoid it" sits poorly with me.

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Re: Erotic v Pornographic

Post by Bill Wiltrack » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:07 pm

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Why does it seem that Bill is trapped in that culture?






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Re: Erotic v Pornographic

Post by chaz wyman » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:14 am

henry quirk wrote:Point taken, Chaz.

And still: Reason's "Yet it would be their duty to bear it, if they could not avoid it" sits poorly with me.
I see your point, but at the end of the day, we all choose what duties are appropriate for us. Although it might seem that many of us allow duties to be thrust upon us, we indeed make the choice to comply or not.

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Re: Erotic v Pornographic

Post by chaz wyman » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:15 am

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
....................................................................................................................................[/color][/size]Why does it seem that Bill is trapped in that culture?

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Because you seem to have stopped thinking and contributing the the threads, and have chose to pollute the website with childish images.

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Re: Erotic v Pornographic

Post by Bill Wiltrack » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:21 am

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Is it possible that you are completely wrong?


Is it possible that the images I choose add to threads?



Could these images speak louder & more clearly than words?




Is it possible that I am recognizing the EXPLOSION in imagery upon the internet?



Is your intellectual function offended
by something much, much more powerful than your intellectual ego?




Just askin...





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Re: Erotic v Pornographic

Post by chaz wyman » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:25 am

Bill Wiltrack wrote:.



Is your intellectual function offended [/b]by something much, much more powerful than your intellectual ego?
Just askin...[/size]


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I think not.
If you want you can try to argue your case.
Perhaps you could start with the last image and tell us what you think it means?

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Re: Erotic v Pornographic

Post by Bill Wiltrack » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:21 am

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First off, my interpretation, of this or any of the images I post, is unimportant.



What IS important is the impression that the GIFs & images I use has upon fellow members here at the Philosophy Now Forums.



The fact that we are even discussing the meaning of this GIF proves it's importance and the incredible power these images and GIFs have upon this thread and upon this forum.



Thank you for having the courage to ask about this GIF.


This is a first step.


Welcome...







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For me, this GIF visually expresses the power of technology and how it is changing the way we relate to each other as humans.

In respect to this thread - Erotic v Pornographic, I believe the internet will totally explode these two terms.



Technology will turn many connotative words and concepts on their heads.


What is erotic?


What is pornographic?



Do these terms - no, no, - CAN these terms exist?



This GIF is extremely powerful in it's representation of where humanity is and where it may be going.


Again, I really believe my view is not that important and there is no right or wrong when it comes to our individual interpretation.




All the best.



...and I didn't mean to seem to talk down to you. Didn't mean to do that.








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...um, are you able to relax and recognize the non-literal aspect of yourself and your surroundings?


Are you able to see all things through philosophical eyes?



Are you able to be outside of your ego; your thoughts, to see all things through philosophical eyes?







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"we all choose what duties are appropriate for us"

Post by henry quirk » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:52 pm

Sure.

You'll agree there's a difference, however, between what one chooses and what is foisted up on one, yes?

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Re: Erotic v Pornographic

Post by Bill Wiltrack » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:06 pm

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Yes. I agree.


No one should be forced to look with philosophical eyes.


Everyone's' interpretation of the world is correct for them. Yes I completely agree.







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"Everyone's' interpretation of the world is correct for them

Post by henry quirk » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:20 pm

I disagree.

If Sam is steady in his assertion 'fire is cold', and he lives accordingly, then Sam is liable to get burned all the time.

Sure, Sam can hold the view 'fire is cold' (a particular interpretation of the world) and -- as long as I'm payin' no price for his view -- I'm unlikely to try to change his mind.

Might be more accurate, then, to say each is entitled to his or her perspective, even if that perspective is insane.

More simply: you got the right to be wrong... ;)

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