Does God have a gender?

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MagsJ wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:43 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:20 am
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:20 am
I'm not sure what you mean here either.
‘I wanna plate o’ whatever he’s having.. a play, on words. :D
Every time I read your username, I think of that ^^^ :)

..what are you having a plate of, today? What does Iwannaplato prefer to eat..
Ah, got it. Thanks.
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Wouldn't you like ta know! :)
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Agent Smith wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:10 am Wouldn't you like ta know!
Know.. what?

The cryptic Agent Smith, huh.. :)
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MagsJ wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:44 am
Agent Smith wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:10 am Wouldn't you like ta know!
Know.. what?

The cryptic Agent Smith, huh.. :)
:) I'm but a cog in The Great Wheel.
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Astro Cat wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:24 am Does God have a gender?
Maybe, but I wonder if it has an agenda.
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Yes. God is a male character in a fictional story, just as Voldemort is a male character in a fictional story.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:40 am Yes. God is a male character in a fictional story, just as Voldemort is a male character in a fictional story.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:40 am Yes. God is a male character in a fictional story, just as Voldemort is a male character in a fictional story.
Some fictional stories have more to say about social reality than others. Harry Potter who is a magical wizard is for entertainment purposes only, and I wish children would be steered towards more nutritious stories.

God, as as a societal construct is a maze of contradictions, not a coherent story.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:40 am Yes. God is a male character in a fictional story, just as Voldemort is a male character in a fictional story.
Is there A 'story' that is NOT 'fictional'?

If yes, then will you SHARE 'it' with us here?

Sure, there may well be MANY 'stories' BASED on 'facts', but how many are ACTUALLY absolutely and FULLY IRREFUTABLY True?

God may well have been transcribed as a 'male' and/or a "he", but like ALL 'stories' 'based on true facts', the WHOLE and FULLY Truth VERY RARELY if EVER gets TOLD.

SEE, 'you', human being, 'authors', 'observers', and, literally, 'story tellers' do have a tendency to ADD 'your' OWN PERVERTED or DISTORTED VERSIONS INTO what ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

This is just the RESULT of a PRESUMING, ASSUMING, and BELIEVING 'thinking' being.
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Belinda wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:43 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:40 am Yes. God is a male character in a fictional story, just as Voldemort is a male character in a fictional story.
Some fictional stories have more to say about social reality than others. Harry Potter who is a magical wizard is for entertainment purposes only, and I wish children would be steered towards more nutritious stories.

God, as as a societal construct is a maze of contradictions, not a coherent story.
IF, and WHEN, one DELVES RIGHT DOWN DEEP into the, literally, HEART of 'that story', then what CAN BE and IS CLEARLY SEEN and NOTICED is that there REALLY IS NO ACTUAL 'contradictions' AT ALL.

However, in saying this, ALL of the PRESUMED, ASSUMED, and BELIEVED 'contradictions', in those stories, can also be CLEARLY SEEN, and, by the way, WHERE they CAME FROM can also be RECOGNIZED, and KNOWN, almost immediately.

And, as I continually say, if ANY one would like to QUESTION and/or CHALLENGE me on this, then please FEEL FREE TO.
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Belinda wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:43 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:40 am Yes. God is a male character in a fictional story, just as Voldemort is a male character in a fictional story.
Some fictional stories have more to say about social reality than others. Harry Potter who is a magical wizard is for entertainment purposes only, and I wish children would be steered towards more nutritious stories.

God, as as a societal construct is a maze of contradictions, not a coherent story.
More 'nutritious' stories? Really? Like what? The babble? The Harry Potter books are wonderful and give children a love of reading. What could be more 'nutritiious' than that?
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Astro Cat wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:24 am In many versions of theism, gods are assigned genders. This might make sense for some like Zeus that are supposed to be running around bodily incarnated in some way most of the time.

But what about gods that are supposed to transcend space and time, do they have genders?

People often refer for instance to the God of Christianity as a “He,” even when not incarnated as Jesus.

Now, critics of gender theory usually insist that sex and gender are the same thing and that gender is defined chromosomally, by genitalia, or by gametes (producing sperm or egg). Arguably, a lot of gods that get assigned genders don’t have any of these, yet a lot of gender critics are perfectly comfortable calling their god a He or a She or whatever.

Do they have an explanation for this?
It might help you to know that God is a fictional character. It an be any gender depending on the author. Male: Female: Hermaphrodite; Neuter.
It should be of no surprise that, since most cultures are male dominated, most versions are male.
However it is possible for a male dominated culture to have a female god. Athens is one example; even though there was Zeus above her was the chief god of the athena polis.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:19 pm
Belinda wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:43 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:40 am Yes. God is a male character in a fictional story, just as Voldemort is a male character in a fictional story.
Some fictional stories have more to say about social reality than others. Harry Potter who is a magical wizard is for entertainment purposes only, and I wish children would be steered towards more nutritious stories.

God, as as a societal construct is a maze of contradictions, not a coherent story.
More 'nutritious' stories? Really? Like what? The babble? The Harry Potter books are wonderful and give children a love of reading. What could be more 'nutritiious' than that?
Love of reading and ability to scan are necessary but not sufficient for mental and spiritual nutrition. The more mentally and spiritually nutritious stories don't have magical solutions to problems, such as Harry's magical escape from his family.

A more nutritious story would have Harry succeeding or failing in mundane ways such as murdering his family and going on the run getting new adventures and new enemies, or else becoming neurotic then getting out from the Muggles' influence and getting healthy again.
Magic is okay in stories as long as the magic is not the basis of the protagonist' s success or failure but is incidental.

The maleness of God is bound up in the popular story of magical intervention by a powerful deity, the more powerful as masculinity, for historical reasons, carries magically superior social status.
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Belinda wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:53 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:19 pm
Belinda wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:43 am
Some fictional stories have more to say about social reality than others. Harry Potter who is a magical wizard is for entertainment purposes only, and I wish children would be steered towards more nutritious stories.

God, as as a societal construct is a maze of contradictions, not a coherent story.
More 'nutritious' stories? Really? Like what? The babble? The Harry Potter books are wonderful and give children a love of reading. What could be more 'nutritiious' than that?
Love of reading and ability to scan are necessary but not sufficient for mental and spiritual nutrition. The more mentally and spiritually nutritious stories don't have magical solutions to problems, such as Harry's magical escape from his family.

A more nutritious story would have Harry succeeding or failing in mundane ways such as murdering his family and going on the run getting new adventures and new enemies, or else becoming neurotic then getting out from the Muggles' influence and getting healthy again.
Magic is okay in stories as long as the magic is not the basis of the protagonist' s success or failure but is incidental.

The maleness of God is bound up in the popular story of magical intervention by a powerful deity, the more powerful as masculinity, for historical reasons, carries magical superiority.
This has to be a joke...
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Belinda wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:53 am The maleness of God is bound up in the popular story of magical intervention by a powerful deity, the more powerful as masculinity, for historical reasons, carries magically superior social status.
It depends how the individuals and cultures and subcultures view power and then men and women. Fecundity is a power that is cherished by many cultures and often seen as the most important. Which is likely why, on some subconscious level, the monotheisms had a male deity forming people out of nothingness (Adam and Eve) (whereas parthenogenesis occurs in other religions) or more or less leaving the woman out of the genetics of birth (Mary).
Gotta get those crops in, find those edible animals and gatherable foods in nature. Gotta have babies. That's a power (often female deity powers) that seems to make men more uneasy then penis envy does women.
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