JK Rowling vs. History

[Skepdick]

As a society we have a choice: persecute or accomodate.

Most folks are willin' to accommodate a man in a dress.

What they won't accommodate is bein' bulldogged into callin' that man a woman.

Most folks are willin' to leave that man in a dress be.

The persecutin' starts when that man demands to recognized as a woman.

I feel terribly persecuted when all these persons demand to be recognized as "man" or "woman".
And, you know, it wouldn't even be all that bad if it stopped there, but it doesn't!

This man is buldoggingme into recognized him "Henry", that woman is buldoggingme into recognizing her as "Henrietta".
That man is buldoggingme into recognizing him as "Julia", that woman is buldoggingme into recognizing her as "Julius".

Everybody wants to be fucking recognized as themselves.

[henry quirk]

As a society we have a choice: persecute or accomodate.

Most folks are willin' to accommodate a man in a dress.

What they won't accommodate is bein' bulldogged into callin' that man a woman.

Most folks are willin' to leave that man in a dress be.

The persecutin' starts when that man demands to recognized as a woman.

I feel terribly persecuted when all these persons demand to be recognized as "man" or "woman".
And, you know, it wouldn't even be all that bad if it stopped there, but it doesn't!

This man is buldoggingme into recognized him "Henry", that woman is buldoggingme into recognizing her as "Henrietta".
That man is buldoggingme into recognizing him as "Julia", that woman is buldoggingme into recognizing her as "Julius".

Everybody wants to be fucking recognized as themselves.

Guy, I don't give a shit what you call me, or what you think I am.

Have at it.

[Skepdick]

Guy, I don't give a shit what you call me, or what you think I am.

I don't think you are anything. I don't use language like that.

As for calling you stuff - I guess I can call you anything I want to call you. Since you don't seem to have preferences.

[Immanuel Can]

Everybody wants to be...recognized as themselves.

Fine. But is the real "themselves" a man, a woman, or the confusion in his/her head?

So yeah, recognize people for what they are: XX or XY, end of story.

[henry quirk]

you don't seem to have preferences.

Sure I do. But if someone calls me -- old, bald, bearded, with a beer gut, and obviously a man -- miss then I'm dealin' with a jackass (like right now) or a crazy person. Either way: I got no time or appetite for it.

I walk away...like I'm doin' now.

[Skepdick]

Fine. But is the real "themselves" a man, a woman, or the confusion in his/her head?

The real themselves is ... (surprise!) themselves!

So yeah, recognize people for what they are: XX or XY, end of story.

Of all the organs in their body, of all the cells in their organs, of all the organelles in their cells. You picked the nucleus.
And of all the stuff in the nucleus you picked the DNA. And of ALL 26 chromosomes you decided to choose THESE TWO to determine "what they are"?

How fucking arbitrary is that?!?!?!

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[Immanuel Can]

Of all the organs in their body, of all the cells in their organs, of all the organelles in their cells. You picked the nucleus.
And of all the stuff in the nucleus you picked the DNA. And of ALL 26 chromosomes you decided to choose THESE TWO to determine "what they are"?

How fucking arbitrary is that?!?!?!

chromosomes.jpg

Apparently, not at all.

According to genetics, they're the sex-determinative chromosomes. And since they are either one or the other, there's not a thing arbitrary about that at all.

How unscientific and unrealistic is your objection?

Hint: that's a rhetorical question. No answer is required.

[Skepdick]

According to genetics, they're the sex-determinative chromosomes. And since they are either one or the other, there's not a thing arbitrary about that at all.

You got the orde of events backwards. Who determined that those particular chromosomes determine "sex"?

What IS "sex", outside the contex of genetics again? You seem to have tangled yourself up in your own bullshit.

How unscientific and unrealistic is your objection?

As scientific as it gets. Which science gets to determine which physiological property of the human anatomy determines what?

[Immanuel Can]

What IS "sex",...

Ask your parents. You're too old for me to give you 'the talk.'

[Immanuel Can]

As a society we have a choice: persecute or accomodate.

Most folks are willin' to accommodate a man in a dress.

What they won't accommodate is bein' bulldogged into callin' that man a woman.

Most folks are willin' to leave that man in a dress be.

The persecutin' starts when that man demands to recognized as a woman.

Well said. No one cares what delusions these people have or how they dress. The problems start when they encroach on the lives of others and demand that everyone else adhere to their claims OR ELSE.

And then, there's this...

Don't even look at it, unless you have a strong stomach. But it certainly makes the point.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... mates.html

[vegetariantaxidermy]

As a society we have a choice: persecute or accomodate.

Most folks are willin' to accommodate a man in a dress.

What they won't accommodate is bein' bulldogged into callin' that man a woman.

Most folks are willin' to leave that man in a dress be.

The persecutin' starts when that man demands to recognized as a woman.

Well said. No one cares what delusions these people have or how they dress. The problems start when they encroach on the lives of others and demand that everyone else adhere to their claims OR ELSE.

And then, there's this...

Don't even look at it, unless you have a strong stomach. But it certainly makes the point.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... mates.html

And this thing will be shown on statistics as a 'female' who 'raped 'her' mother'.

[Immanuel Can]

Don't even look at it, unless you have a strong stomach. But it certainly makes the point.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... mates.html

And this thing will be shown on statistics as a 'female' who 'raped 'her' mother'.

It's unspeakable.

But it shows very clearly that those who doubt our women need protection from these kinds of people are living in a fool's paradise.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Don't even look at it, unless you have a strong stomach. But it certainly makes the point.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... mates.html

And this thing will be shown on statistics as a 'female' who 'raped 'her' mother'.

It's unspeakable.

But it shows very clearly that those who doubt our women need protection from these kinds of people are living in a fool's paradise.

Oops. You'll have the male 'feminists' like mick and terrapin jumping on you for that one

[Immanuel Can]

And this thing will be shown on statistics as a 'female' who 'raped 'her' mother'.

It's unspeakable.

But it shows very clearly that those who doubt our women need protection from these kinds of people are living in a fool's paradise.

Oops. You'll have the male 'feminists' like mick and terrapin jumping on you for that one

Let 'em. The principle's too important to concede.

[uwot]

Don't even look at it, unless you have a strong stomach. But it certainly makes the point.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... mates.html

Mr Can, you old drama queen you. The point henry quirk and vegetariantaxidermy were making is essentially that reasonable people don't get too worked up by freaks, but won't be told what to think. But to Mr Can I have the Apocalypse now? the behaviour of one nutjob

...shows very clearly that those who doubt our women need protection from these kinds of people are living in a fool's paradise.

What sort of preemptive legislation would you introduce to protect women from their own children?