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Re: A World Without Men?

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Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:18 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:06 pm
Age wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:22 pm

Because of the information, which is about to be released.
Is that a prediction about a prediction?
No.
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:06 pm What sort of information?
The sort of information that leads to learning and understanding FULLY how easy and simple it REALLY IS to live in peace and in harmony with one "another" as One.
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:06 pm When will it be released?
Do you want the exact date and time?

If yes, then for who, EXACTLY?
This is information that lets us know what things future generations are going to be thinking and doing, right?
So us, that's who I want the information for.
Not just me, not just Uwot, but everyone who is already visiting this site without being "future generations"

Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:18 am See, when people come to Truly UNDERSTAND it will ACTUALLY be 'you', posters here who are responding to 'my words', and the generation that FINALLY comes to the understanding that causes those to MAKE the CHANGE, who will be THANKED for doing what it TOOK to begin making the 'world' a MUCH BETTER PLACE for EVERY one.

See, the one known as "age" can NOT and will NOT be thanked. This is because of where EXACTLY the words under the label "age" are coming from become FULLY UNDERSTOOD, and that is One who is NOT to be thanked AT ALL. The ones who are to be Truly THANKED are the ones who were in the generation that had the Courage and the Honesty to MAKE the CHANGE for the BENEFIT of ALL 'future generations'.
Is that the God-Channeling stuff Atla was speaking of? Is that where the the 'the words under the label "age" are coming from'?
Are you bringing us the word of God?
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:18 am So, although 'you', posters here, in this forum, will be THANKED for PROVIDING the PROOFS needed, 'you' can ALSO be THANKED, individually, for being part of the very first generation of adults who did become Truly Honest, and thus Truly OPEN, which, in turn, was the beginning of the Truly Peaceful 'world', which HAS eventuated.

We will just have to WAIT, and SEE.
And you know this because....?
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:18 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:06 pm
Age wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:22 pm They do NOT have to, to KNOW that they will receive the PROOF. You have ALREADY PROVIDED the PROOF. So, 'the writing is ALREADY on the wall', as some say.
How do you even know they will exist?
BECAUSE although 'you', human beings, can be the MOST STUPID animal on the planet, and quite often ARE, in the days when this is being written, 'you' are NOT STUPID ENOUGH to wipe "yourselves" out completely. Within 'you' ALL is the INTELLIGENCE, and the WANT, to keep living. This 'drive' is what, eventually, causes the CHANGE, and the CORRECTION, which leads 'you', human beings, down the Right path in Life to ALWAYS be continually Creating a MUCH BETTER 'world' for "yourselves", that is; EVERY one as One.
That's a prediction.
So the reason why you do the whole "you humans" thing, is that because you are God?
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:18 am ALL of what is happening and occurring here NOW, is part of the PLAN, which is 'UNFOLDING before your eyes', as some say, for ALL to SEE and UNDERSTAND. This is ALL just a process, which parts of a kept hidden to some, and REVEALED gradually, for reasons that will become completely OBVIOUS, while human beings keep evolving and CHANGING, the way that they are.
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:06 pm What is your proof that we won't be wiped out by a comet colliding with the Earth before they are even born?
There is NO proof for that.

But how much have 'you', human beings, evolved to where 'you' are now moving out of, and away from, earth? It will NOT be to long at all before 'you', human beings, will be travelling and be at distances away from earth that even if the human beings on earth were wiped out by a comet, there will still be some of 'you' alive and living in a Universe of infinite possibilities. Earth's backyard, after all, is a relatively 'big' place to EXPLORE, and WONDER. 'you', human beings, in the days when this was being written, were REALLY, in relative terms, only in the 'crawling stage' of one human being, compared to what human beings, collectively, are POTENTIAL of being, and BE-coming. In other words, 'you' are REALLY only just getting to the first year of one human being relative to who and what evolution, itself, is Creating, and BECOMING.

Although this can be VERY EASILY EXPLAINED and can be VERY SIMPLY UNDERSTOOD, this is moving away from your ACTUAL question.
So it is NOT CERTAIN that future generations will do anyting in particular.
Your claimed PROOF and KNOWLEDGE that they will, was just a prediction.

Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:18 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:06 pm
Age wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:22 pm

See, here is ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE of asking CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, but ACTUALLY REALLY having ALREADY CLEARLY ASSUMED that they KNOW the answer/s ALREADY. Which is EXTREMELY FOOLISH, especially considering what thee ACTUAL Truth IS.
thee ACTUAL TRUTH is nothing but a rumour right now.
Is It?
It's like a child's imaginary pet octopus. She might tell us she has one, but it's invisible, so we can't see it, and it never reveals itself in any way. All she has to do to equal your acheivement is say that anyone could see her imaginary pet octopus if they wouold just learn te simple art of looking for it where it actually is.
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Re: A World Without Men?

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:00 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:18 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:06 pm
Is that a prediction about a prediction?
No.
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:06 pm What sort of information?
The sort of information that leads to learning and understanding FULLY how easy and simple it REALLY IS to live in peace and in harmony with one "another" as One.
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:06 pm When will it be released?
Do you want the exact date and time?

If yes, then for who, EXACTLY?
This is information that lets us know what things future generations are going to be thinking and doing, right?
What???

You have gone COMPLETELY OFF TRACK, so no.
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:00 am So us, that's who I want the information for.
Not just me, not just Uwot, but everyone who is already visiting this site without being "future generations"
But 'you', "flashdangerpants", and "uwot", have SHOWN that neither of you are YET capable of UNDERSTANDING this information.
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:00 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:18 am See, when people come to Truly UNDERSTAND it will ACTUALLY be 'you', posters here who are responding to 'my words', and the generation that FINALLY comes to the understanding that causes those to MAKE the CHANGE, who will be THANKED for doing what it TOOK to begin making the 'world' a MUCH BETTER PLACE for EVERY one.

See, the one known as "age" can NOT and will NOT be thanked. This is because of where EXACTLY the words under the label "age" are coming from become FULLY UNDERSTOOD, and that is One who is NOT to be thanked AT ALL. The ones who are to be Truly THANKED are the ones who were in the generation that had the Courage and the Honesty to MAKE the CHANGE for the BENEFIT of ALL 'future generations'.
Is that the God-Channeling stuff Atla was speaking of?
Would it NOT be better to ask "atla", itself, instead of 'me', about what "atla" was speaking of, EXACTLY?
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:00 am Is that where the the 'the words under the label "age" are coming from'?
Are you bringing us the word of God?
What is the 'word of God', and better still does 'God' even exist to you, first?
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:00 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:18 am So, although 'you', posters here, in this forum, will be THANKED for PROVIDING the PROOFS needed, 'you' can ALSO be THANKED, individually, for being part of the very first generation of adults who did become Truly Honest, and thus Truly OPEN, which, in turn, was the beginning of the Truly Peaceful 'world', which HAS eventuated.

We will just have to WAIT, and SEE.
And you know this because....?
Because of the information, and the knowledge, which ALREADY exists. How many times do you have to be informed of this before you comprehend it?
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:00 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:18 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:06 pm
How do you even know they will exist?
BECAUSE although 'you', human beings, can be the MOST STUPID animal on the planet, and quite often ARE, in the days when this is being written, 'you' are NOT STUPID ENOUGH to wipe "yourselves" out completely. Within 'you' ALL is the INTELLIGENCE, and the WANT, to keep living. This 'drive' is what, eventually, causes the CHANGE, and the CORRECTION, which leads 'you', human beings, down the Right path in Life to ALWAYS be continually Creating a MUCH BETTER 'world' for "yourselves", that is; EVERY one as One.
That's a prediction.
If you say and BELIEVE so, then it is SO.

Is there ANY thing wrong with this?

If yes, then 'what', EXACTLY?
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:00 am So the reason why you do the whole "you humans" thing, is that because you are God?
How many times do 'you' have to be told that the you is NOT God and NEVER could be God, before 'you' comprehend and understand this FACT?

So, the True, Right, and Correct answer here to you question REMAINS FOREVER OBVIOUS. Therefore, your question here is just MOOT.
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:00 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:18 am ALL of what is happening and occurring here NOW, is part of the PLAN, which is 'UNFOLDING before your eyes', as some say, for ALL to SEE and UNDERSTAND. This is ALL just a process, which parts of a kept hidden to some, and REVEALED gradually, for reasons that will become completely OBVIOUS, while human beings keep evolving and CHANGING, the way that they are.
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:06 pm What is your proof that we won't be wiped out by a comet colliding with the Earth before they are even born?
There is NO proof for that.

But how much have 'you', human beings, evolved to where 'you' are now moving out of, and away from, earth? It will NOT be to long at all before 'you', human beings, will be travelling and be at distances away from earth that even if the human beings on earth were wiped out by a comet, there will still be some of 'you' alive and living in a Universe of infinite possibilities. Earth's backyard, after all, is a relatively 'big' place to EXPLORE, and WONDER. 'you', human beings, in the days when this was being written, were REALLY, in relative terms, only in the 'crawling stage' of one human being, compared to what human beings, collectively, are POTENTIAL of being, and BE-coming. In other words, 'you' are REALLY only just getting to the first year of one human being relative to who and what evolution, itself, is Creating, and BECOMING.

Although this can be VERY EASILY EXPLAINED and can be VERY SIMPLY UNDERSTOOD, this is moving away from your ACTUAL question.
So it is NOT CERTAIN that future generations will do anyting in particular.
Not if a comet, or let us say, a virus wipes ALL of 'you', human beings, completely out.

But, the plan STILL REMAINS, and STILL IS ACHIEVED, because 'future generations' is a very relative term.
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:00 am Your claimed PROOF and KNOWLEDGE that they will, was just a prediction.
Did I?

If yes, then WHERE?
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:00 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:18 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:06 pm
thee ACTUAL TRUTH is nothing but a rumour right now.
Is It?
It's like a child's imaginary pet octopus. She might tell us she has one, but it's invisible, so we can't see it, and it never reveals itself in any way.
This has absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to do with what I have been talking about, and doing.
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:00 am All she has to do to equal your acheivement is say that anyone could see her imaginary pet octopus if they wouold just learn te simple art of looking for it where it actually is.
If this is what you BELIEVE, then this IS what IS true, to you.

Also, PLEASE do NOT STOP 'trying to' DISCREDIT me. The MORE you 'try' the BETTER, and the QUICKER, the OUTCOME.
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Now you will experience the full power of the schizophrenic insanity.

Idiot really seems to think that the universe/God is already speaking through all of us, but most people mess up the process. If only we were more like Age, who is much better at channeling.
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Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:24 am Now you will experience the full power of the schizophrenic insanity.
Who will?
Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:24 am Idiot really seems to think that the universe/God is already speaking through all of us,
If the Universe is NOT, what you call, "speaking", through ALL of 'us', then what else could the Universe "speak' through?
Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:24 am but most people mess up the process.
Do you UNDERSTAND and KNOW thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things', or do you MESS 'things' up?
Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:24 am If only we were more like Age, who is much better at channeling.
Is "age"? WHY would 'you' say such a thing?

If you are 'up to' DISCUSSING ANY thing "atla", then let us begin. Otherwise, do what 'you' have been doing "atla" and just continue speaking ABOUT, or BEHIND, "others".
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Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:21 am what else could the Universe "speak' through?
Did you know that little parts of the universe such as humans, can't speak as/for the universe?
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Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:28 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:21 am what else could the Universe "speak' through?
Did you know that little parts of the universe such as humans, can't speak as/for the universe?
Are 'you' speaking as/for the Universe, here?

If no, then what 'you' say here is just your own little part view of 'things', which, OBVIOUSLY, could be completely AND utterly Wrong.
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Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:37 am
Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:28 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:21 am what else could the Universe "speak' through?
Did you know that little parts of the universe such as humans, can't speak as/for the universe?
Are 'you' speaking as/for the Universe, here?

If no, then what 'you' say here is just your own little part view of 'things', which, OBVIOUSLY, could be completely AND utterly Wrong.
And maybe you're not a human but actually an invisible duck, anything you say could be completely AND utterly Wrong.
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Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 am
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:17 amTrue Age, I am not everyone. Nor are you. The difference is that I know what careful observation and calculation by generations of astronomers, mathematicians and physicists has revealed about the behaviour of the universe.
But ANY one who can read can KNOW this.
It is not enough to be able to read, one has to actually do it.
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amThose, so called, "careful observations and calculations by generations of astronomers, mathematicians, and physicists has "revealed" about the behavior of the Universe", is CLEARLY WRITTEN. But that is NO way makes what is claimed true, in and of itself.
That is why even extremely well supported hypotheses, evolution by natural selection and general relativity being prominent examples, are still called theories.
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amIn fact, WHERE and WHY they are Wrong can also be CLEARLY SEEN and KNOWN, which 'you', "uwot", are INCAPABLE of SEEING and UNDERSTANDING, YET.
In your future utopia, what will become of mental defectives such as yours truly?
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amThe PROOF of what thee Universe ACTUALLY IS, and how It ACTUALLY behaviors, ALREADY EXISTS and can be CLEARLY OBSERVED and EXPERIENCED. Therefore, that thee Universe can ONLY be INFINITE and ETERNAL is ALREADY a PROVED Fact.
That you believe it is not the same as 'PROVED Fact'.
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amEverything else is, essentially, just A GUESS, which, some of of those GUESSES are BELIEVED to be true, like "yourself", "uwot", DO.
Indeed, but I can tell you why I believe those guesses, and even the evidence it would take for me to change my belief.
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 am
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:17 amYou believe/think/know you know more than all of them, at best "through peaceful two-way discussions" with similarly minded fuckwits, or more likely from sitting on your arse believing every word it says.
This is a GREAT EXAMPLE of what some people resort to, in the days when this was being written, when they were left with NOTHING.
No Age, we are confronted with nothing.
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amNow, let us CORRECT your Wrong ASSUMPTIONS here, ONCE MORE.

I KNOW when my claims are IRREFUTABLE.
No Age, your claims are unfalsifiable. There are two basic types of unfalsifiable claims. One at least has the virtue of being creative; psychoanalysis and astrology being examples. When confronted with awkward counterfactuals, a diligent practitioner will at least come up some auxiliary premise to explain the apparent contradiction. Your type of unfalsifiable claim, as FlashDangerpants has pointed out already, is the 'I've got an invisible pet octopus that only the worthy can see' variety. It applies equally well to every god that has had a believer and is parodied in a way that even children can understand in the fable of the Emperor's New Clothes.
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amI do NOT know 'more' than ALL of them. In fact I probably know 'less' than EACH of them, individually.
'Probably' clearly means something different in Kenglish.
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amBut what I KNOW is just DIFFERENT from what they, now, know.
Right. You have alternative facts.
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amThrough peaceful, two-way discussions ANY and ALL of human 'problems' can be and ARE solved/answered.
That may be true of human problems, but the way to discover how the universe behaves is to look at it.
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amMy words do NOT need to be BELIEVED because they are IRREFUTABLY True, ANYWAY. The reason WHY will become JUST, OBVIOUS, and IRREFUTABLE as well.
I'm not qualified to make a specific diagnosis, but the general reason you believe your nonsense is painfully obvious.
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:01 amTo me, 'the truth' can be VERY DIFFERENT to 'thee Truth'.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:17 amRight. Well, that is the plot of 1984 and the Trump administration: Don't believe the experts; don't even believe your own eyes, we have alternative facts.
But there can NOT be, so called, "alternative facts", in the way you are suggesting here.

There can, OBVIOUSLY, ONLY be One Truth, but be MANY truths, AS WELL. So, AGAIN, 'thee Truth' is NOT necessarily 'the truth', AT ALL. In fact, 'the truth' RARELY coincides with 'thee Truth', in the days when this is being written anyway. But this will all come to PASS.
So there cannot be alternative facts, but there can be alternative truths. At least one of those truths is definitely wrong. Yours.
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Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:42 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:37 am
Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:28 am
Did you know that little parts of the universe such as humans, can't speak as/for the universe?
Are 'you' speaking as/for the Universe, here?

If no, then what 'you' say here is just your own little part view of 'things', which, OBVIOUSLY, could be completely AND utterly Wrong.
And maybe you're not a human but actually an invisible duck, anything you say could be completely AND utterly Wrong.
If you think ANY thing I say is WRONG, then just POINT OUT that 'thing', so that we can SEE 'it', explain WHY you perceive 'it' to be WRONG, and then let us DISCUSS.
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Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:55 am
Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:42 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:37 am

Are 'you' speaking as/for the Universe, here?

If no, then what 'you' say here is just your own little part view of 'things', which, OBVIOUSLY, could be completely AND utterly Wrong.
And maybe you're not a human but actually an invisible duck, anything you say could be completely AND utterly Wrong.
If you think ANY thing I say is WRONG, then just POINT OUT that 'thing', so that we can SEE 'it', explain WHY you perceive 'it' to be WRONG, and then let us DISCUSS.
Ok explain WHY "You", the "I", aren't just a little human personality in age's head.
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uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 am
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:17 amTrue Age, I am not everyone. Nor are you. The difference is that I know what careful observation and calculation by generations of astronomers, mathematicians and physicists has revealed about the behaviour of the universe.
But ANY one who can read can KNOW this.
It is not enough to be able to read, one has to actually do it.
And, so what?

What you BELIEVE is true is OBVIOUSLY NOT. So, let us DISCUSS 'that'.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amThose, so called, "careful observations and calculations by generations of astronomers, mathematicians, and physicists has "revealed" about the behavior of the Universe", is CLEARLY WRITTEN. But that is NO way makes what is claimed true, in and of itself.
That is why even extremely well supported hypotheses, evolution by natural selection and general relativity being prominent examples, are still called theories.
AND, they are STILL ONLY 'theories/guesses' BECAUSE 'you', human beings, in those days when this was written, were STILL LOOKING FOR thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things'.

INSTEAD of just LOOKING AT what IS ACTUALLY JUST, True, and REAL, 'you' MUCH PREFER to 'theorize' or 'guess' what COULD BE the case. Which, to me, has been a TREMENDOUS waste.

Also, it does NOT matter how "well supported" a hypothesis is, it is still ONLY a guess about what COULD BE true.

By the way, 'evolution' is NOT a 'theory', unlike general relativity and an expanding Universe ARE, as 'evolution' is an ALREADY PROVED Fact.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amIn fact, WHERE and WHY they are Wrong can also be CLEARLY SEEN and KNOWN, which 'you', "uwot", are INCAPABLE of SEEING and UNDERSTANDING, YET.
In your future utopia, what will become of mental defectives such as yours truly?
Your mental deficiencies gradually disappear.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amThe PROOF of what thee Universe ACTUALLY IS, and how It ACTUALLY behaviors, ALREADY EXISTS and can be CLEARLY OBSERVED and EXPERIENCED. Therefore, that thee Universe can ONLY be INFINITE and ETERNAL is ALREADY a PROVED Fact.
That you believe it is not the same as 'PROVED Fact'.
The reason I do NOT BELIEVE this is true is because it is ALREADY a PROVED Fact, and OBVIOUSLY what is PROVEN True does NOT need to be BELIEVED.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amEverything else is, essentially, just A GUESS, which, some of of those GUESSES are BELIEVED to be true, like "yourself", "uwot", DO.
Indeed, but I can tell you why I believe those guesses, and even the evidence it would take for me to change my belief.
Great. Will you tell us WHY you BELIEVE those guesses, and, even the evidence it would take for you to change your BELIEF?

If no, then WHY NOT?
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 am
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:17 amYou believe/think/know you know more than all of them, at best "through peaceful two-way discussions" with similarly minded fuckwits, or more likely from sitting on your arse believing every word it says.
This is a GREAT EXAMPLE of what some people resort to, in the days when this was being written, when they were left with NOTHING.
No Age, we are confronted with nothing.
LOL If you BELIEVE SO.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amNow, let us CORRECT your Wrong ASSUMPTIONS here, ONCE MORE.

I KNOW when my claims are IRREFUTABLE.
No Age, your claims are unfalsifiable.
You ARE completely Wrong, ONCE AGAIN.

I will AGAIN suggest you do NOT LOOK AT 'things' from the Assumptions you make based solely upon your OWN Previous Experiences.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am There are two basic types of unfalsifiable claims. One at least has the virtue of being creative; psychoanalysis and astrology being examples. When confronted with awkward counterfactuals, a diligent practitioner will at least come up some auxiliary premise to explain the apparent contradiction. Your type of unfalsifiable claim, as FlashDangerpants has pointed out already, is the 'I've got an invisible pet octopus that only the worthy can see' variety.
LOL And here is a GREAT EXAMPLE of those who with BELIEFS will transfer the SAME ILLOGICAL DELUSIONS, from brain to brain, when they are BELIEVED to fit in with and correspond with currently HELD BELIEFS.

Also, and by the way, what happens if, and WHEN, thee ACTUAL Truth (your invisible pet octopus) starts becoming visible? After all, that the earth revolves around the sun was once seen as "an invisible pet octopus".

As for the CLAIM that ONLY the, laughable so called, "worthy" can see, is just ANOTHER EXAMPLE of just how DISTORTED some people see things when they are infiltrated with BELIEFS.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am It applies equally well to every god that has had a believer and is parodied in a way that even children can understand in the fable of the Emperor's New Clothes.
Yet here you are the one who is ONLY seeing what you currently BELIEVE is true, all the while thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things' is HERE-NOW 'before you', and 'staring you in the face', as some say.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amI do NOT know 'more' than ALL of them. In fact I probably know 'less' than EACH of them, individually.
'Probably' clearly means something different in Kenglish.
Let us NOT FORGET that I have NOT YET been FULLY CHALLENGED.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amBut what I KNOW is just DIFFERENT from what they, now, know.
Right. You have alternative facts.
LOL And here is a PRIME EXAMPLE of one with an "alternative fact".

Remember i have made the CLAIM that I can PROVE, irrefutably, that thee Universe is infinite and eternal BEFORE ANY one of 'you', human beings, could PROVE, in ANY way, that thee Universe began and is expanding.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amThrough peaceful, two-way discussions ANY and ALL of human 'problems' can be and ARE solved/answered.
That may be true of human problems, but the way to discover how the universe behaves is to look at it.
The way I UNCOVERED how the Universe ACTUALLY behaves was just by OBSERVING, and EXPERIENCING, thee Universe, Itself, from the Truly OPEN perspective. Which is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what 'you', adult human beings, did, in the days when this was being written. As EVIDENCED and PROVEN True, throughout YOUR WRITINGS.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:47 amMy words do NOT need to be BELIEVED because they are IRREFUTABLY True, ANYWAY. The reason WHY will become JUST, OBVIOUS, and IRREFUTABLE as well.
I'm not qualified to make a specific diagnosis, but the general reason you believe your nonsense is painfully obvious.
LOL for two reasons.

I do NOT believe ANY thing.

You are ACTUALLY saying absolutely NOTHING here.

What is "obvious" here, to you?
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:01 amTo me, 'the truth' can be VERY DIFFERENT to 'thee Truth'.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:17 amRight. Well, that is the plot of 1984 and the Trump administration: Don't believe the experts; don't even believe your own eyes, we have alternative facts.
But there can NOT be, so called, "alternative facts", in the way you are suggesting here.

There can, OBVIOUSLY, ONLY be One Truth, but be MANY truths, AS WELL. So, AGAIN, 'thee Truth' is NOT necessarily 'the truth', AT ALL. In fact, 'the truth' RARELY coincides with 'thee Truth', in the days when this is being written anyway. But this will all come to PASS.
So there cannot be alternative facts, but there can be alternative truths.
NO.

ONCE AGAIN, if you ask clarifying questions, from a Truly OPEN perspective, instead of ASSUMING 'things', then you will receive VERY DIFFERENT ANSWERS.

You will, by the way, also receive thee One and ONLY True ANSWER.
uwot wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:11 am At least one of those truths is definitely wrong. Yours.
But there are NO 'alternative truths'. You REALLY do NEED to OPEN UP. That is; if you REALLY do want to learn more and BECOME WISER.
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Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:01 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:55 am
Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:42 am
And maybe you're not a human but actually an invisible duck, anything you say could be completely AND utterly Wrong.
If you think ANY thing I say is WRONG, then just POINT OUT that 'thing', so that we can SEE 'it', explain WHY you perceive 'it' to be WRONG, and then let us DISCUSS.
Ok explain WHY "You", the "I", aren't just a little human personality in age's head.
LOL But 'you' are NOT the 'I', and NEVER will be. So, EVERY thing else you said and imagined here is just MOOT.

By the way, what does the word 'you' with a capital 'Y' even mean or refer to, to you?
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Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:26 am
Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:01 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:55 am

If you think ANY thing I say is WRONG, then just POINT OUT that 'thing', so that we can SEE 'it', explain WHY you perceive 'it' to be WRONG, and then let us DISCUSS.
Ok explain WHY "You", the "I", aren't just a little human personality in age's head.
LOL But 'you' are NOT the 'I', and NEVER will be. So, EVERY thing else you said and imagined here is just MOOT.

By the way, what does the word 'you' with a capital 'Y' even mean or refer to, to you?
the "You" referred to what age calls the "I", age thinks that the "I" is there in every human so it has no second person singular, but age can be completely AND utterly Wrong
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Re: A World Without Men?

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Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:24 am...it does NOT matter how "well supported" a hypothesis is, it is still ONLY a guess about what COULD BE true.
That is so, Age, but what you claim to know about the universe cannot be true.
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:24 amBy the way, 'evolution' is NOT a 'theory', unlike general relativity and an expanding Universe ARE, as 'evolution' is an ALREADY PROVED Fact.
Evolution is a demonstrable fact. Evolution by natural selection is a theory. General relativity is a theory that the cause of gravity is a mechanical substance called spacetime. That the mathematical model based on that theory accurately accounts for the behaviour of massive bodies is a demonstrable fact. The expansion of the universe is a demonstrable fact. Every version of how it came to be, in what prior conditions, is a theory. You have a theory that the universe is not expanding, but you have no facts to support your theory. You should try and understand the difference between a fact and a theory.
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Re: A World Without Men?

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Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:55 am
Age wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:26 am
Atla wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:01 am
Ok explain WHY "You", the "I", aren't just a little human personality in age's head.
LOL But 'you' are NOT the 'I', and NEVER will be. So, EVERY thing else you said and imagined here is just MOOT.

By the way, what does the word 'you' with a capital 'Y' even mean or refer to, to you?
the "You" referred to what age calls the "I", age thinks that the "I" is there in every human so it has no second person singular, but age can be completely AND utterly Wrong
you sound VERY CONFUSED. I have said NOTHING of the sort.
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