Well, considering that I NEVER used the 'empty' word here, what has this got to do with what I ACTUALLY SAID, and WROTE?
So, one sentence you CLAIM the Universe is NOT composed of 'matter' and 'empty space' BUT next sentence you CLAIM that 'we' [whoever that refers to] KNOW this because when "we" "hit" 'it' [and exactly what the 'it' word is referring to here only you know] but either way you claim that "we", routinely, create matter out of 'empty space'.
Besides the OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION here, which needs to be RECTIFIED and CLARIFIED, FIRST, there is also quite a deal to unpack, LOOK AT and DISCUSS before 'we' can proceed and move on here. But first things first; Is there, or is there NOT, 'empty space', to 'you'?
If there is 'empty space' to you, then how do you explain the contradiction here?
If there is NO 'empty space', to begin with, then what, exactly, is just being, routinely, "hit really hard"? If it is matter just being "hit really hard" by other 'matter', then OF COURSE matter is apparently being created. But saying matter is being, routinely, created out of 'empty space' is VERY misleading. But, if what is being "hit really hard" is 'empty space', then you STILL have a LOT of explaining to do.
After you do that, if you do, then we can LOOK AT and DISCUSS how it would NOT matter how you explained things here we are still left with the OBVIOUS, actual, CONCLUSION anyway.
Hold up a bit. You are, again, JUMPING way to far ahead here, as well as, again, making ASSUMPTIONS, based on NOTHING that I have ACTUALLY SAID, nor WRITTEN here so far.uwot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:48 pm As you are keen to remind us, it is possible that we human beings make all sorts of assumptions that misdirect out beliefs, but atom smashers do not make assumptions and they very clearly show that Einstein was right about E=mc2 and that you really can make matter from energy - kinetic energy in this instance, or movement in plain English.
I will, once again, suggest STOP ASSUMING that what you ALREADY BELIEVE is true, right, and correct, that is; if you REALLY do want to find out and discover what is ACTUALLY True, Right, and Correct. Otherwise, just continue on the way you are DOING, and SHOWING us, here.
When, and if, you answer and clarify ALL of my previous Truly OPEN questions posed to you, then we can move on to LOOKING AT and DISCUSSING how matter is just ALWAYS just a consequence from 'energy' ANYWAY. The reason WHY energy exists, and ALWAYS DOES EXIST, explains HOW matter ALWAYS EXISTS as well, which further explains, and UNIFIES, the apparent but NOT actual "incompatibility" and "inconsistency" between the quantum and classical level of 'things'.
'Space', or 'distance', can only be limited by 'matter'. 'Matter', however, is limited, or defined by a boundary, of which there is 'space' around it. And again, this 'space', or 'distance', has to go on forever, until it is limited by 'matter'. And, either this "last" piece of 'matter' goes on forever, or is limited in size, of which there would, again, 'space' around it, which would go on forever, unless it is limited by a piece of 'matter', an 'object'.
The Universe is not composed only of 'matter' as there is, obviously, 'space' in between and around objects like planets and stars, 'space' within tables and chairs, themselves, 'space', within atoms, and space in between things like protons, neutrons, and even quarks themselves. There HAS TO BE space between these things, otherwise they would be just one thing and, literally, NOT things at all.
So, the Universe, Itself, at the most fundamental level, is just composed of 'matter', AND, a 'space', with the word 'space' just referring to the distance between and around 'matter'.
'Space' is, literally, at the defining edge of 'matter' and defines the size of 'matter', and, 'matter', itself, defines the 'distance' or the length of 'space'. Spatially, the Universe has to be infinite.
All 'matter' comes from at least two other prior things, coming together. Even your 'loosely' worded; "we routinely create matter out of 'empty space' by hitting it really hard" is further evidence and proof that at least two things prior, coming together, is needed for absolutely ANY thing to be created. So, for ANY to be created there has to be at least two prior things. Which means that if there is ever ANY thing, then there MUST HAVE BEEN two things prior ALWAYS.
The 'Universe', all 'matter' and 'space' as a whole, beginning from absolutely nothing is not even logically possible, let alone an actually possibility, let alone an actuality.
The Universe exists ALWAYS, or eternally, just from the very simple fact that for every reaction there was an action, and, for every action there is a reaction. As well as the very simple fact that for every effect there was a cause, and, for ever cause there is an effect, or just 'effect and cause' or 'cause and effect'.
Therefore, the Universe, Itself IS infinite and eternal. Of which, there is countless other PROOF, although what has been explained here is enough, to back up and support this FACT.
LOL But, and OBVIOUSLY, you have NOT YET LOOKED, for "yourself".
You are just going off and BELIEVING what "others" have TOLD 'you'.
Also, what will come to light, and so will be SEEN, is that because you are just repeating, what "others" have TOLD you is true, you will NOT be able to back up and support that hypothesis and guess that the Universe BEGAN and IS EXPANDING. Although, and which can be CLEARLY SEEN, you will continue on 'trying' and 'trying' to CLAIM that what you currently BELIEVE is true, is ACTUALLY true, right, AND correct.
By the way, when 'we' do LOOK, from thee Truly OPEN Mind, what 'we' not just 'discover' but actually do 'uncover' is thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things'. Which, in the days when this was being written, 'you', adult human beings, were still in the process of re-learning how to do, properly and correctly.