uwot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:44 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:16 amI have absolutely NO IDEA WHY you JUMPED to making up some ASSUMPTION, and CONCLUDING that what I claim to know about the Universe can NOT be true, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING the FACT that you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA, YET, what I claim to KNOW about the Universe.
You claim, along with Newton and Einstein that the universe is not expanding. They were both wrong.
But HOW could they BOTH be WRONG, when, to you, it has, supposedly, NOT YET been PROVEN that the Universe IS EXPANDING?
Or, has the idea and hypothesis that the Universe is expanding ALREADY BEEN PROVEN to you to be right?
See, it is NOT logical to CLAIM one thing is true, but also CLAIM that another opposing this is also true.
uwot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:44 am
Newton never saw the evidence that universe is expanding, but Einstein did and changed his mind.
It is statements like these WHY human beings, in the days when this was being written, could NOT find out what thee ACTUAL Truth IS in regards to WHAT thee Universe ACTUALLY IS and in regards to HOW It ACTUALLY WORKS.
NO human being "has a mind".
Also, how did the one known as "einstein" SEE the, so called and claimed, "evidence" that the Universe IS, irrefutably, EXPANDING?
And, you appear to STILL NOT YET be AWARE of the DIFFERENCE between 'evidence' AND 'proof'.
But 'first things first', and, 'one thing at a time', as they say.
uwot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:44 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:16 amLOL Most people WAIT to FIND OUT what "another" SAYS, BEFORE they JUMP to the CONCLUSION "you do NOT know what you are talking about".
What you have said so far is ample evidence that you have no idea what you are talking about.
LOL And so to, to MANY adult human beings, when one said that ACTUALLY the earth does revolve around the sun, was "ample evidence" that that one had NO IDEA what they were talking about.
Those people did, EXACTLY like what you are doing, and SHOWING, here "uwot". That is; NOT giving the "other" the OPPORTUNITY to EXPRESS ALL of what they HAVE TO SAY.
'you', "uwot", EXACTLY like ALL of those other people, just WANT to DISCREDIT the "other" when they say things, which go AGAINST what you and they ALREADY BELIEVED is true.
'you' are PROVIDING the ACTUAL 'evidence' AND 'proof' for EXACTLY what I have been talking about, in regards to HOW the Mind and the brain ACTUALLY WORK.
uwot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:44 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:16 amYour ASSUMPTIONS and BELIEFS are leading you that FAR ASTRAY "uwot".
It is you that has assumptions and beliefs. I've got evidence.
You might CLAIM to have "evidence", but WILL you PROVIDE "it"?
If no, then WHY NOT?
Otherwise we will WAIT, and SEE.
uwot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:44 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:16 amNow, you just made the CLAIM that I have made ASSUMPTIONS, which I have WRONGLY ASSUMED, so are you going to back up and support this CLAIM with some ACTUAL PROOF?
Age, you have stated that the universe is not expanding.
Yes, you are CORRECT.
uwot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:44 am
You have done so without a scrap of evidence,
You may CLAIM this. But this is CLEARLY False, Wrong, and Incorrect.
uwot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:44 am
nor any argument to support your claim, proving that you have just assumed it, and it is wrong.
Wow you REALLY do JUMP to ASSUMPTIONS and CONCLUSIONS VERY QUICKLY.
Have you SEEN EVERY 'argument' that I have made?
If no, then HOW do you KNOW that I have made the CLAIM that the Universe is NOT expanding without a, so called, "scrap of evidence, nor ANY argument to support my claim"?
Just because you have NOT YET SEEN, and/or I have NOT YET SHOWN 'you', ANY evidence NOR ANY argument, does NOT instantly PROVE that I have "just assumed" that the Universe is NOT expanding. Nor does it instantly PROVE that the Universe is NOT expanding, is wrong.
The speed that you JUMP to ASSUMPTIONS and CONCLUSIONS is 'breathtaking', as some say.
The way you presented this attempt of an 'argument' here was just VERY WEAK, at the best.
There is ABSOLUTELY NO necessity for 'me' to PROVIDE 'you' with ANY thing. As I say, I am in NO RUSH, AT ALL.
When people are in A RUSH to present their ideas, and they have NOT obtain ALL of the PROOFS NEEDED, beforehand, then they have to do, as some say, and which is a complete misnomer, "change their minds". As can be CLEARLY evidenced AND proven, throughout human history.
SEE, being able to PROVE 'things', to people like "yourself" "uwot" who BELIEVE otherwise, is NOT an instant task, and as such just takes a bit of 'time' and careful planning. Even though what is to be presented are irrefutable True FACTS, which can be and will be PROVEN absolutely True, there are people like "yourself" who are just NOT YET READY for this INFORMATION, and REVELATION.
Which past human history PROVES True. That is; some people are just NOT YET READY for thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things'. For some people, like "yourself", "uwot", a paradigm shift is needed FIRST, BEFORE you are able to, what is again incorrectly called, "change your mind". But this is just, literally, ' the nature of the 'beast' ', as some say.
uwot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:44 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:16 amWhat you completely and utterly appear to FORGET is the VERY THING that I am WAITING FOR.
The universe will be quite a bit larger if they ever appear.
LOL That would be extremely funny, if the Universe was expanding, especially that considering the fact that what I am WAITING FOR is for 'you' to do some thing here.
What you wrote here now appears to PROVE, without ANY doubt at all, what I said and claimed.