Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:53 pm
I don't think of life/existence/awareness within this dream/reality/whatever as something to get beyond or escape. I don't think of it as a "lower state" or punishment or prison. It is a CHALLENGE, for sure, but that's part of the adventure of playing with unknown potential, with a limited set of parameters. How does one play the game? Having fun or not, seems based on attitude and sportsmanship.
Is "winning" anything more than a momentary sense of accomplishment before looking for the next game? So why not keep playing?
Being alone is often easier than not being alone, but is this just a form of escapism? In my opinion, it's each to their own. Iron is only tempered by entering the fire. Ok lets all burn, or not. In the end, we're all going to die, there is nothing to win or accomplish except the addiction to winning and accomplishing, for what gain, but to lose it all in the end. It's kind of like those darn arcade machines, how many times have you walked out of those places with more money that you walked in with?
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:53 pmI don't favor philosophies that want to negate everything to some point of non-play. As if nothingness or singleness is desired and superior somehow. As if all of this bounty of creativity and experience and interaction is inferior and despised. It's like turning up one's nose at a huge banquet table of delights, and then dying of starvation. If that's the way to a "god" or "complete awareness", then that god and awareness must be a delusion to deny so much.
What if playing is the point to everything?
As if nothingness or singledom is like some superior state of being
I hardly doubt it, human beings are obsessed with their own image. Other people are their mirror. People are a total void without other people to be their mirror. So I think it's the other way around, human beings are totally obesssed with their own image - and so this commonly shared addiction is the superior state of being...imho
Not everybody enjoys the rat race that is human eye gazing at other human eyes. In fact hardly anyone looks at another person square on in the eye without blinking these days for fear of looking at themself.
There is nothing being denied within the Nonduality camp, being awakened is not about 'being alone' . Nonduality is about 'being'.
And this 'being' is not 'some-thing' but can emerge as every kind of thing, included being alone or being together. As I said earlier, each to their own. It's not about turning your nose up at a particular state of being in favor of another. The desire for solitude is just as tasty as any other banquet, personally I prefer to eat alone. At least then you don't have to worry about those rather silly awkward moments when one makes really loud pig slurping noises or when one gets tomato and mustard ketchup all round their mouth and face. So yeah, eat the grapes and spit out the seeds when it comes to living your personal groove, everyone is different that's all.
While it is true that human beings are social creatures and love to be around their own kind. There is also an existential crisis within the human condition which is like a gnawing hunger to belong and to be accepted. So the desire for companionship can be a form of escapism too.
There seems to be a built in assumption that awakening or enlightenment is a permanent state of bliss that just clicks in one day.
But that's just an old wife's tail, it's just more new age bamboozle. In reality..there's just the really big realisation that ''...I think therefore I AM an asshole...''
This startling blinding epithany that I AM an asshole, and all the other mirrors were assholes too, was like a big BOOM!!
The epithany was huge big freedom, a final permission to be in bliss was right there in that moment of boom!!
It also happens where it happens, it happens when it happens. And when I think I'm in control of it, that's just me playing again.
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