Logik wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:45 am
gaffo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:08 am
yes i agree ritual is probably the most important aspect of Relgion over Dogma.
So if you recognize that aspect, then by calling yourself an "atheist" are you saying that you practice no rituals whatsoever ?
what i am saying is that i focused upon Dogma to the detriment of Ritual - the former i fixate on, the latter i ignore.
you set me straight in your posts. i have no interest in Ritual and much in Dogma - but your post set me straight (my interests blinded me to a bigger vision) - i remain uninterested in ritual, but now less blind (not allowing my personal interests to ignore the bigger picture concerning Religion/Faith).
in other words your post had wisdom. i noted and will try to learn from it.
i thank you for this Sir.
as to the latter inquary of any rituals i partake as an athiest. (I do not think being an Athiest makes one not one of rituals - i suspect OCD Athiests have rituals. but was born not habit forming (my demon is Alcohol - to bring me out and "feel") - thank god i was not born an OCD, otherwise i would have died of alchoholism decades ago.
born non-OCD, none-habit forming, but BUT introvert!, AL always ALWAYS makes me "happy" "love to my brothers" "emotional" (positive emotions - never dickish/anger)..............but know it will kill me, and know (thank god not born of habbits) - and being humble and noting all this, try to not let AL rule and ruin me, and and at the same time thankful I'm not OCD, and do not condemn others born like me - introverted, but unlike me, OCD - for them AL is clearly DEATH, for me it is less so, but knowing how much i like it and know i partake too much of (like when i post here - lol - but its ok, most folks here have minds for disscussion, so its good) - I only thank God that i was born the opposite of "habit forming"
BTW I've smoke cigarettes for decades as a "chipper" (recreasional) - smoke after drunk, not when sober, cigs are bad (but the "high" - 30 sec or so from that first drag is FAB (unfiltered only ). If you smoke more than a couple of cigs a day, you loose the 1/2 minute high, and the reason to smoke IMO.
Cigs are not my demon (I ignore then when sober), Al is, but thankful not OCD - and so may be able to deal with, other that are OCD and intreverts also, my God have mercy upon then.
- per your inquary, no, i have no rituals to the best of my knowledge.
thanks for your reply and for being a Gentleman too.