The Insidious Power of Pronoun Discrimination

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It's simple: MYOB and don't be deliberately cruel

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henry quirk wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:00 am It's not enough that I leave them be to do with themselves as they like, I also have to agree with them, no matter how outlandish or just plain wrong their self-assessment is, yeah?
No, you just have to cut them a little slack for two seconds of your life rather than deliberately undermining them when you don't know them and it's none of your business.
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"you just have to cut them a little slack...rather than deliberately undermining them when you don't know them and it's none of your business"

But isn't that what I do when i leave them be?
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Re: It's simple: MYOB and don't be deliberately cruel

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Greta wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:28 am
henry quirk wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:00 am It's not enough that I leave them be to do with themselves as they like, I also have to agree with them, no matter how outlandish or just plain wrong their self-assessment is, yeah?
No, you just have to cut them a little slack for two seconds of your life rather than deliberately undermining them when you don't know them and it's none of your business.
That's not what this is about. Stop making it so personal. As a matter of fact a 'transwoman' is nothing like a woman. I am sure they think they are, but they are not. They are something else altogether. They are caricatures of what they think women are.
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Greta wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:43 pm Some of the comments here are shockingly ignorant for a philosophy forum. Normal for Facebook and Twitter for people to blather on without knowing ANYTHING at all about what they are talking about, but it's sad and embarrassing on a philosophy forum.

All of the research regarding human diversity of the last half century is seemingly just thrown out of the window here and we return to the early 1950s before Christine Jorgensen hit the headlines. The brain studies showing differing brain structures according to gender identity are completely disregarded.

People here apparently don't realise not everything that is real is visible. Kant would be weeping in his grave to see what "philosophy" has come to.
You just figured that out? The love of wisdom is expressed in philosophy. The human search for meaning is found in philosophy. The Secular Intolerance thread revealed how the goals of philosophy are sacrificed to the love of argument, condemnation and self justification which is are dominant influences in the world.

Objective human meaning is found above Plato's divided line and yes Kant was well aware of it.
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TimeSeeker wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:44 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:28 pm Weird sort of a 'hobby'.

So you are from South Africa--a country that is reknowned for its kind and empathetic police force 8)
You can't help yourself putting people in boxes, can you ? ;)
Isn't that where babies come from?
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Nick_A wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:58 am Objective human meaning is found above Plato's divided line and yes Kant was well aware of it.
That's why both Plato and Kant were wrong.

You can observe human 'meaning' from the most simple of English sentences if you just paid attention. The utterance "I".

From the line Forms + Mathematical knowledge.

"I" is self-reference. Self-reference is recursion. Recursion is computation.

Computation models (Forms!) are mathematically intelligible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computability_theory
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attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:40 am
TimeSeeker wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:44 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:28 pm Weird sort of a 'hobby'.

So you are from South Africa--a country that is reknowned for its kind and empathetic police force 8)
You can't help yourself putting people in boxes, can you ? ;)
Isn't that where babies come from?
Do you think this child knows what that means?

Is this child abuse from a law enforcement perspective, or from another perspective?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxdvOLdG_34
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Walker wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:58 pm Do you think this child knows what that means?

Is this child abuse from a law enforcement perspective, or from another perspective?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxdvOLdG_34
So they are encouraging Perspectivism ( http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Perspectivism ) at age 11? Cool!

I would love to see if that young wun figures shit out by age 20! Most adults are confused till they die.
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Walker wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:58 pm
attofishpi wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:40 am
TimeSeeker wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:44 pm
You can't help yourself putting people in boxes, can you ? ;)
Isn't that where babies come from?
Do you think this child knows what that means?

Is this child abuse from a law enforcement perspective, or from another perspective?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxdvOLdG_34
Americans are such wankers. Why can't they ever just shut the f'''k up? Do they really have to verbalise every stupid thought that comes into their stupid heads?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:05 pm Americans are such wankers. Why can't they ever just shut the f'''k up? Do they really have to verbalise every stupid thought that comes into their stupid heads?
Yes. That's how freedom of speech works.

For every billion stupid ideas there is one that's not.
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TimeSeeker wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:06 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:05 pm Americans are such wankers. Why can't they ever just shut the f'''k up? Do they really have to verbalise every stupid thought that comes into their stupid heads?
Yes. That's how freedom of speech works.

For every billion stupid ideas there is one that's not.
The more they talk the less they say.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:08 pm The more they talk the less they say.
The stop listening. Find content that you care about.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:05 pmAmericans are such wankers. Why can't they ever just shut the f'''k up? Do they really have to verbalise every stupid thought that comes into their stupid heads?
Same kid hanging out with his peers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHxG8PAaYnY

At around :34 they start talking about the monster pooper, and eating poopies.

There's a bit more going on than ... freedom to be!
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TimeSeeker wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:08 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:08 pm The more they talk the less they say.
The stop listening. Find content that you care about.
Stupid comment, even by your standards.
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Walker wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:12 pm Same kid hanging out with his peers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHxG8PAaYnY

At around :34 they start talking about the monster pooper, and eating poopies.
And what is that kid like out of character (drag) ?

Or do you only care to see the engineered content? :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactivity_(psychology)
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