Are any women brutish?

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Are any women brutish?

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Don't recall reading about women being brutish in history, Not even about other species (cavemen are hunters while the women stayed home).

Other animals I recall did have brutish females, but not humans.

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I expect you'd find many brutish men and women in prison.
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Are one of those Lizzie Borden whose name just came to mind?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: โ†‘Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:18 am Are one of those Lizzie Borden whose name just came to mind?

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After reading Wiki, I withdraw Lizzie Borden.

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: โ†‘Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:03 am Don't recall reading about women being brutish in history, Not even about other species (cavemen are hunters while the women stayed home).

Other animals I recall did have brutish females, but not humans.

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I'd bet Boudica was an awesome brute.
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Only after she was lashed and her daughters gang-raped by the cohort.
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Philosophy Explorer wrote: โ†‘Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:03 am Don't recall reading about women being brutish in history, Not even about other species (cavemen are hunters while the women stayed home).

Other animals I recall did have brutish females, but not humans.

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Look up "elizabeth bathory" please.
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Arising_uk wrote: โ†‘Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:08 am Only after she was lashed and her daughters gang-raped by the cohort.
Since she was likely made brutish, is there any another way to become brutish?
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Walker wrote: โ†‘Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:10 am
Arising_uk wrote: โ†‘Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:08 am Only after she was lashed and her daughters gang-raped by the cohort.
Since she was likely made brutish, is there any another way to become brutish?
Look up "Erzsebet Bathory", please.
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What about this delightful creature, Belle Gunness? Murdered all of her children and husbands and probably fed them to her hogs.
Beautiful children and a monster mother.

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: โ†‘Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:03 am Don't recall reading about women being brutish in history,
You probably don't recall hearing much about women in history; Their roles in society only changed relatively recent on a historical timescale. Those roles didn't allow much for contribution, but it also didn't allow much for the negative things, either. I'm not entirely sure if murder is one of them, though. I mean to be clear I think there are biological reasons why women murder less, but this was probably accompanied by social factors as well.
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Sir-Sister-of-Suck wrote: โ†‘Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:40 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: โ†‘Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:03 am Don't recall reading about women being brutish in history,
You probably don't recall hearing much about women in history; Their roles in society only changed relatively recent on a historical timescale. Those roles didn't allow much for contribution, but it also didn't allow much for the negative things, either. I'm not entirely sure if murder is one of them, though. I mean to be clear I think there are biological reasons why women murder less, but this was probably accompanied by social factors as well.
To mention I have excellent recall. Heard about Vlad the Impaler. Never heard about Elizabeth Bathory before.

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Philosophy Explorer --- Brute is a derogatory word almost exclusively applied to men, like thug, barbarian, lout, swine, ogre, bastard. Accordingly, it must be very rare for women to be brutish. There are of course equivalent derogatory words for women, but for different sorts of behaviour -- female ways of being nasty. Virago, harridan, shrew, witch, nag, ogress. Bad men become famous because their misbehaviour is often against the law, whereas there are very few laws against female ways of misbehaving. Hence the twenty-to-one ratio of men to women in jail in the UK.


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