Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:47 am
[Muslim women disagree, re western women liberating them]
Maybe. That's the sort of evil indoctrination Islam produces.
So,if they fight for what you want them to have, they're right; if they want something different, it's because they don't know any better.
But Islam's not a nationality, not a race, nor even a culture.
No shit! It's a religion, like Christianity or Buddhism, that crosses national boundaries and influences, as well as being influenced by, local cultures.
I think you'd agree it's pretty clear that nobody in their right mind
It's not my job to determine what is anyone else's "right" mind.
thinks that women are property, that sharia, forced marriages, paedophelia, and slavery are a normal and healthy alternatives, that revenge rape is justice
Really? So all the people of the Bible and quite a lot of people in the modern Christian nation of USA, are out of their right minds? Very possibly.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 71656.html
, that the burkha is a comfort garment,
It was a desert garment. Now it's just traditional, like business suits neckties, bellhop's and Playboy Club uniforms.
or that the word of a woman should be worth only half that of a man.
And yet 49% of American voters believed the most blatant lies of Donald Trump, rather than check the facts, while they readily believed that Hillary Clinton was lying, without bothering to check the facts.
[not a good idea for outsiders to barge in]
That would be true only in cases where basic human rights were not being violated -- egregiously and routinely, too.
So, then, the UN should invade the USA. I'm strangely okay with that.
But if a feminist is going around claiming to have an unalienable right to the vote, to equal pay, to fair treatment in court, to freedom from sexual attack and open access to education,
American women can accurately say that in America. They can refer to a dozen different amendments written into their constitution.
then she can't turn around and say, "Women of other countries don't deserve these things."
Which feminist said that?
One difference really remains to be noted: Western women have tremendous power. Their political influence, their economic power and their advantages in education and the media are absolutely massive.
Yes, it's approaching the political influence and economic power of western men.
Many women in poorer countries have no power at all.
And many do. In fact, they're making far more rapid progress than you give them credit for.
https://www.africa.com/7-africas-intere ... liticians/
So before we go telling them to "Put their own house in order,"
Not them. You!
Until human rights, social organization and equality are in perfect balance in your own country, keep out of other peoples'.
And afterwards, keep out of other peoples'.