Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:57 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:50 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:50 pm
So you assume no division from your point of view?
NO. I NEVER assumed any such thing. But what I did actually do was, OBVIOUSLY, ask you a clarifying question, which you have, OBVIOUSLY, attempt to divert away from.
(Sipping coffee)
Actually you made a claim that there is no division...
I agree.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:57 pmthen I asked if you assume this.
I agree.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:57 pmTo which you say no,
I agree.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:57 pmwithout defining why except that you do not see it,
I agree. So far no issues at all here, except I did NOT know that I had to define any thing extra to a 'yes'/'no' question other than provide you with a 'yes' or a 'no' answer, which I obviously did do.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:57 pm but using your angle of awareness is still an assumed reference point for measurement...thus making an assumption.
If you believe this is TRUE, then it MUST BE true, and so what I claim could not be any thing other than an assumption, correct?
Are you at all aware that it would not matter what was said or put in front of you, that, because of that BELIEF which you obviously are so strongly holding onto and would die for, then you would form absolutely ANY sort of "reason" or "argument for" to insist that 'it' is just an assumption?
It would not matter how illogical or nonsensical some thing is, if it supports your own already held onto belief, then you will say it or use it.
So, there is absolutely NO use in me saying any thing at all. Even when I have clearly stated that
I agree wholeheartedly with you, you will still keep fighting for your own self believing assumed "argument".
If you do not like that I provided an example of 'what is not assumed', which you obviously can not refute, then, plain and simply, do not ask for examples.
Also, you have reached the conclusion that no matter what any one sees or says, then whatever view is expressed come from an individual "angle of awareness" and EVERY "angle of awareness" IS an assumed "reference point for measurement", and therefore an assumption is being made. SO, you have now covered ABSOLUTELY EVERY THING, which makes what you ASSUME absolutely True, Right, and Correct (from YOUR "angle of awareness"), which, by the way, I have ALREADY agreed wholeheartedly with YOU.
It does NOT matter how illogical some thing is, as long as it is so called "evidence" and supports your own BELIEF as being True, then it is RIGHT by you. So, once again, well done. You have achieved what you said out to do. The "trilemma problem theory" is a real and true thing, which can not be falsified.
As your argument stands now, all you have to do is ask some one a 'yes'/'no' question, and when they provide you with a 'yes' or a 'no' answer, then you can tell them; See you are using your angle of awareness, which is still an assumed reference point for measurement...thus making an assumption. So, EVERY thing IS assumed, and therefore I am right and you are wrong. I win and you lose, you might add. Just to make sure they KNOW. (But if they KNOW, then, to me it is NOT an assumption at all. But obviously this does NOT count and is NOT taken into consideration at all. It just does NOT matter at all).
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:57 pm(Sipping coffee)
What division do I see?
High divorce rates, failed families, sexual exploitation from both sides, false expectations as to what constitutes a relationship from both sides, oppression (patriarchy/feminism) from both sides, a general sense of paranoia and the inability for people to commit to reproduction which is now being replaced by other cultures specifically speaking the muslims.
That is part of the definition as to why, and can be further elaborated on.
(Sipping coffee).
I still do not see how 'differences in thought' leads to the conclusion that you have made that there is a "Division between the Sexes", but I thank you very much for clarifying what divisions you do see.
If, as you say that you can further elaborate, then can you please explain how those 'differences of thoughts' is perceived to be a "Division between the Sexes"? Where is the line actually drawn between two sexes? Where do 'you' draw that line? In other words, separate the two sexes into two distinctly different things, and then we can look at IF there really is an actual and real "Division between the Sexes" OR IF you are just assuming there is one, which is obviously just what you are doing anyway.