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Transracialism

Post by Viveka » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:57 am

Can a white person be Asian?

Why would a person choose an supposedly destructive concept such as race in order to benefit himself as a bearer of 'equality' as attempting to be a certain race he is not? Supposedly acknowledging that race itself exists leads to a problem of racism. According to people who say race doesn't exist, this seems to be a problem, as a racist could be non-racist by being racist!

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Re: Transracialism

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:29 am

Viveka wrote: โ†‘
Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:57 am
Can a white person be Asian?

Why would a person choose an supposedly destructive concept such as race in order to benefit himself as a bearer of 'equality' as attempting to be a certain race he is not? Supposedly acknowledging that race itself exists leads to a problem of racism. According to people who say race doesn't exist, this seems to be a problem, as a racist could be non-racist by being racist!
Going way back when, humans started off dark-skinned.

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Re: Transracialism

Post by Viveka » Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:05 am

Philosophy Explorer wrote: โ†‘
Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:29 am
Viveka wrote: โ†‘
Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:57 am
Can a white person be Asian?

Why would a person choose an supposedly destructive concept such as race in order to benefit himself as a bearer of 'equality' as attempting to be a certain race he is not? Supposedly acknowledging that race itself exists leads to a problem of racism. According to people who say race doesn't exist, this seems to be a problem, as a racist could be non-racist by being racist!
Going way back when, humans started off dark-skinned.

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Could very well be true! And then what is race? How did we branch off into different races? Noah's Ark? Or some kind of evolution through selection pressures of different climates and circumstances?

I'm all for non-existence of races, but as an artist I cannot help but look at different categories of people and appreciate the beauty in every category, with the categories being simply 'race' or 'facial-look' or 'body-shape' etc. In other words, I do not think of races as a racist, but rather different appearances of humans with certain apparent demarcations of appearance. There is not a racial master or slave, no true ideal of a race. I was once asked by a wise person, 'if you are racist, then draw a picture of what you think is the ideal of a race.' If I were to choose one appearance of an ideal of a race, I couldn't! Races are not always about superiority or degeneracy or eugenics, but, for me, a way to diversify the beauty of the single humanity that we all are. It may appear divisive, but it's simply the way my mind as an artist works.

If people want to claim they're latino when they're white, that is simply wrong, because we cannot all share the same heritage of differing races. I think God allowed races for beauty and appearances, not ideas about how one is more favorable to be or anything like that.

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Re: Transracialism

Post by Viveka » Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:14 am

Most people aren't all about the supremacy of a certain breed of dog, but when it comes to races they're always proud to announce their race. If I were to choose what race I were born into, I would not think race matters. But when people are racist, they're proud of their ethnicity. That's fine and all if it's simply their own thing, but to then deny other races their place in life is hypocrisy, because neither of them chose their own race.

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Re: Transracialism

Post by GreatandWiseTrixie » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:00 pm

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Nowadays, if you say race exists, you are called a racist, for saying that race exists.

How far down the rabbithole of stupid has society fallen.


It's like how a transsexual will say they were born a female, then say they are a male to female transsexual.

If you were born female, and want to be a female, then what's the problem, you don't need to transition.
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Re: Transracialism

Post by GreatandWiseTrixie » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:06 pm

Viveka wrote: โ†‘
Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:05 am
If I were to choose one appearance of an ideal of a race, I couldn't! Races are not always about superiority or degeneracy or eugenics, but, for me, a way to diversify the beauty of the single humanity that we all are.
"The beauty of a single humanity"...don't make me puke.
Here's your so called beautiful humanity.
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The sooner an asteroid hits your planet, the better.

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Re: Transracialism

Post by gaffo » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:21 am

Viveka wrote: โ†‘
Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:57 am
Can a white person be Asian?
He can be Caucasoid that lives in Asia, but he will never be a Mongoloid that live in Asia.

snipped the rest of your Political correctness garbage.

- i use the Term Oriential BTW - 1/2 of "Asians" are fking INDIANS/BANGALI/PAKI ------------who are Caucasoids - NOT Mongoloids.

the term "Asian" ingnores those billions in India living there and so is dissrespectul and inaccurate GEOGRAPHY.

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Re: Transracialism

Post by gaffo » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:33 am

Viveka wrote: โ†‘
Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:05 am
Philosophy Explorer wrote: โ†‘
Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:29 am
Viveka wrote: โ†‘
Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:57 am
Can a white person be Asian?

Why would a person choose an supposedly destructive concept such as race in order to benefit himself as a bearer of 'equality' as attempting to be a certain race he is not? Supposedly acknowledging that race itself exists leads to a problem of racism. According to people who say race doesn't exist, this seems to be a problem, as a racist could be non-racist by being racist!
Going way back when, humans started off dark-skinned.

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Could very well be true! And then what is race?
sub-species.

gray/brown squirrel.

Poodle/Pug.

Manx/Persian.



PhilX ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
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How did we branch off into different races?[/quote]

geopgraphic barriers.

seas/mountians/deserts

Mongoliods sep from Caucasiods via the Hymalia

Negiods sep from Caucasoids via Saharra


Ausie abriginies via the indian ocean.


etc...



PhilX ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
[/quote]


Noah's Ark?
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lol - ya sure!

lol.



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Or some kind of evolution through selection pressures of different climates and circumstances?

[/quote]

yep

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I'm all for non-existence of races, but as an artist I cannot help but look at different categories of people and appreciate the beauty in every category, with the categories being simply 'race' or 'facial-look' or 'body-shape' etc. In other words, I do not think of races as a racist, but rather different appearances of humans with certain apparent demarcations of appearance. There is not a racial master or slave, no true ideal of a race. I was once asked by a wise person, 'if you are racist, then draw a picture of what you think is the ideal of a race.' If I were to choose one appearance of an ideal of a race, I couldn't! Races are not always about superiority or degeneracy or eugenics, but, for me, a way to diversify the beauty of the single humanity that we all are. It may appear divisive, but it's simply the way my mind as an artist works.

If people want to claim they're latino when they're white, that is simply wrong, because we cannot all share the same heritage of differing races. I think God allowed races for beauty and appearances, not ideas about how one is more favorable to be or anything like that.
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of course races exist - only fool would deny that a German Shepard is not a Poodle.

ignore Political Correctness gargage - its all weak minded crap for tenered proff who have no link to reality.

ask any Forisic Anthropologist HOW THEY KNOW THE RACE OF a dead man from his skellton - from it features (Skull). just as they can give the sex from the pelvis.

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Re: Transracialism

Post by gaffo » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:56 am

Viveka wrote: โ†‘
Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:57 am
Can a white person be Asian?
nope.

you are either,

mixed
caucasoid
mongoloid
negroid
australoid
amerind

..............

simple really.

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Re: Transracialism

Post by gaffo » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:59 am

gaffo wrote: โ†‘
Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:33 am
Viveka wrote: โ†‘
Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:05 am
Philosophy Explorer wrote: โ†‘
Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:29 am


Going way back when, humans started off dark-skinned.

PhilX ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
Could very well be true! And then what is race?
sub-species.

gray/brown squirrel.

Poodle/Pug.

Manx/Persian.



PhilX ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
How did we branch off into different races?[/quote]

geopgraphic barriers.

seas/mountians/deserts

Mongoliods sep from Caucasiods via the Hymalia

Negiods sep from Caucasoids via Saharra


Ausie abriginies via the indian ocean.


etc...



PhilX ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
[/quote]


yep.

squirrel ls still a squirrel - only a fool would deny it.

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Re: Transracialism

Post by gaffo » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:04 am

gaffo wrote: โ†‘
Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:33 am


ask any Forisic Anthropologist HOW THEY KNOW THE RACE OF a dead man from his skellton - from it features (Skull). just as they can give the sex from the pelvis.
precisely! to within 85 percent.

there will always be outliers, but ya.

in 500 yrs all the races will be literally mixed and phorensic paths will have to earn their pay - or be out of a paycheck.

;-).

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Re: Transracialism

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:23 am

gaffo wrote: โ†‘
Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:56 am
Viveka wrote: โ†‘
Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:57 am
Can a white person be Asian?
nope.

you are either,

mixed
caucasoid
mongoloid
negroid
australoid
amerind

..............

simple really.
'amerind'? 'mongoloid'? What about yellow, brown, black, and sort of pinkish to light tannish?

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Re: Transracialism

Post by Science Fan » Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:06 pm

The nice thing about science is that science does not give a crap what a person wants to believe to be true. Races do not exist among humans. This is what the vast majority of geneticists will tell you, and they should know if anyone does. To the extent people believe races exist, they are simply believing in a made-up cultural fiction, not in anything that is based on actual biology.

As far as the claim is concerned that an anthropologist can identify a person's remains as being from a black person or a white person, that does not even remotely mean that races exist. The reason? It's because if one randomly selects two black people and a white person, and compares their DNA, the two black people will have a wider variance than either of the two black people and the white person. This is counter-intuitive, but true. This occurs because the genetic variations within any so-called racial classification are greater than among different groups. So, if you identify some one as being "white," that tells you nothing about who he is as a person, which is why the racist comes up empty handed.

If you see different races because some people have dark skin and others not, that is merely you seeing some superficial differences due to climate adaptations, which you have been taught to see as evidence for races. Had you been taught that there is a blue-eyed race and a green-eyed race, you would be telling everyone that --- "hell, of course there is a blue-eyed race and a green-eyed race, just look at the differences between these two races you can see with your own eyes."

Racists need to be placed in the same classification as creationists, climate-science deniers, and the anti-vaxxers. They are simply science-deniers.

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Re: Transracialism

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:52 pm

Not 'PC IOW hypocritical' at all. :roll: Silly, shallow people they are.
Maybe some people just don't like black people. Or white people. They might not like the way they look. They might not like anything about them. Perhaps white/black/yellow people treated them badly in the past. People can't help how they feel, and feelings are neither 'right' not 'wrong'. They just 'are'. Of course, if you transfer those feelings into criminal actions then that's a different matter entirely, but what people think is, for the time being, their own personal kingdom
The PC, bless them, really need to decide whether they are referring to culture or appearance (or even religion, dear lord) when they throw the 'r' word around like cheap confetti at a Las Vegas wedding. Perhaps they could try practicing what they preach for once, and realise that preaching patronising pseudo-biology at others is going to make as much difference as telling rabidly fanatical American zionists that Palestinians and Jews are exactly the same biologically, and they will all live together in peace and harmony if only they could accept this remarkable truth.
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Post by henry quirk » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:07 pm

"Racists need to be placed in the same classification as creationists, climate-science deniers, and the anti-vaxxers. They are simply science-deniers."

Go tell that to the NAACP.

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