iMod wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:06 pm
Throng wrote:I need to clarify a personal boundary issue. Denigrating, insulting and/or abusive aspersions aren't acceptable to me, and because I personally can do nothing to influence consideration and respect with regards to other people, in order to maintain this personal boundary I will refer future derogation to the Administration.
Throng, you are welcome to refer any posts you think may go too far to the moderators. The simplest and most effective way is to use the "report post" facility, by clicking on the "!" button you can find at the top right of the post.
This board is more lightly moderated than most philosophy forums, for practical reasons and also reasons of principle. Rick Lewis does not impose his own view either of what philosophising should look like or of what is and is not acceptable behaviour. It is within the power of each member to decide for themselves who here is worth engaging and who is best avoided. Accordingly, Rick's team of moderators is kept small; too small even for the task of reading
everything, let alone policing everything, that is posted.
It would be a mistake to assume (as I think some do) that just because someone has been here a long time and insults other users with seeming impunity, they enjoy the moderators' affection or approval, or any kind of respect or privilege.
There are many regular posters here that Rick and his team consider to be, at best, poor thinkers and poor communicators on whom little time should be wasted. But we prefer to leave it to each individual to decide who those members are, and how best to treat them. It's part of a philosopher's skill-set, worth developing and demonstrating with pride.
The above is a good summary of the philosophy behind the Philosophy Now forum.
I understand that it is 'part of a philosopher's skill set' to decide how much time should be given to posters who are 'poor thinkers and communicators'. It is not so much that that is the problem here.
Many who disrupt discussions with their own agenda communicate their thoughts very well.
I doubt that anyone assumes that any insulting long-term contributors enjoy moderators' 'affection or approval, or any kind of respect or privilege'.
However, there is quite rightly a respect for freedom; Rick has made clear that mostly anything goes on this forum.
Even if the presence of obsessive, manipulative, demeaning characters whose delusions mean that they are not amenable to reasoned argument results in a loss of decent posters who have a real interest in philosophy, and those who would be. That loss of quality and potential is apparently acceptable.
Freedom is valuable but not if abused.
The fact that you need to keep pointing out how to deal with 'posts that go too far' shows that it should be made clearer and more prominent so that people understand what has to be done to draw the mods attention to any persistent offender.
The final decision is made by the mods, and must be accepted - even if it is wrong.
Yes, it is understandable that the mods have limited time to read and police.
What about the valuable time and energy committed to having a serious discussion, and time and energy involved in learning, starting and maintaining a thread.
It is seriously offputting and dispiriting when a civil and engaging exploration involves dealing with, and reporting a clear and continual offender. To no avail.
Even if it could be rationalized as ' developing and demonstrating [ a philosophical skill set] with pride'.
It doesn't seem to concern Rick and team that many worthwhile, quality posters leave.
Or that the sometimes toxic atmosphere kills any desire to engage in philosophical discussion stone dead.
And so it goes...