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A woman's reputation

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:58 am

In a relationship, why would a woman have more to fear about her reputation than a man about his (is it because women are more sensitive?)

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by mickthinks » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:28 am

There's some confusion in your question, Phil. Are you asking why women feel more fear than men, or why women are more vulnerable than men?

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by Blaggard » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:23 pm

No it's because double standards exist.

Women have all the same emotions men do. It's not like one of the sexes are emotionally retarded. It's just social convention has defined roles for each sex, and it is hard to break them.

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:16 am

Blaggard wrote:No it's because double standards exist.

Women have all the same emotions men do. It's not like one of the sexes are emotionally retarded. It's just social convention has defined roles for each sex, and it is hard to break them.
Hi Blag,

Any thoughts as to how this particular double standard came to be? I would try to research it on the internet, but I wouldn't know where to start.

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by thedoc » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:01 am

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Blaggard wrote:No it's because double standards exist.
Women have all the same emotions men do. It's not like one of the sexes are emotionally retarded. It's just social convention has defined roles for each sex, and it is hard to break them.
Hi Blag,
Any thoughts as to how this particular double standard came to be? I would try to research it on the internet, but I wouldn't know where to start.
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You could start with the earliest societies on Earth, there has been a double standard throughout history, females have always had different roles in society, read a little history. For example I believe that in England a King could marry and his wife would be the Queen, but if a Queen ascends the throne and marries her husband is not the King. So HE can promote a woman to be Queen but SHE cannot promote a man to be King.

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:01 am

Probably because women are on the receiving end of misogyny from both men and women. Society hates women.

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by Blaggard » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:33 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Blaggard wrote:No it's because double standards exist.

Women have all the same emotions men do. It's not like one of the sexes are emotionally retarded. It's just social convention has defined roles for each sex, and it is hard to break them.
Hi Blag,

Any thoughts as to how this particular double standard came to be? I would try to research it on the internet, but I wouldn't know where to start.

PhilX
Yeah look up anthropological roles in history men and women, and the reasons such things exits. Also look up animal sex roles, particularly in apes, and also in Wolves.
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Probably because women are on the receiving end of misogyny from both men and women. Society hates women.
Society doesn't hate anything per se. Evolution on the other hand is blind hatred. ;)

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by duszek » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:14 pm

Powerful women can enjoy different standards though.

The zarine Catherine the Great or Cleopatra or even the English Queen Elisabeth I had many lovers and their reputation did not suffer.

Men worry about raising children who are not theirs and possibly that is why they prefer women who are faithful.

A man can have bad reputation too.
If he is a gambler, an alcoholic, a cheater, a syphilitic etc.
There are aspects of a man that women avoid. What would they be exactly ?

In conservative terms: women should be pretty and faithful, men should be rich and strong and intelligent and provide security.

Would you agree ?

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:46 pm

duszek wrote:Powerful women can enjoy different standards though.

The zarine Catherine the Great or Cleopatra or even the English Queen Elisabeth I had many lovers and their reputation did not suffer.

Men worry about raising children who are not theirs and possibly that is why they prefer women who are faithful.

A man can have bad reputation too.
If he is a gambler, an alcoholic, a cheater, a syphilitic etc.
There are aspects of a man that women avoid. What would they be exactly ?

In conservative terms: women should be pretty and faithful, men should be rich and strong and intelligent and provide security.

Would you agree ?
Then why are there so many ugly married people, with children?

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by duszek » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:17 pm

Perhaps because they compromise.

Perhaps because they develop there own standards, that are different.

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:13 pm

duszek wrote:Perhaps because they compromise.

Perhaps because they develop there own standards, that are different.
Perhaps because who we fall in love with usually has little to do with the stereotypical supposedly 'desirable' mates. Perhaps this is one of the reasons there are so damn many of us.

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by Kayla » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:51 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Then why are there so many ugly married people, with children?
mostly because the english speaking peoples are a bunch of lard asses and this gets worse with age

so people who look ok at 18 become ugly fatsos by 30

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by Mic84 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:43 am

Philosophy Explorer wrote:In a relationship, why would a woman have more to fear about her reputation than a man about his (is it because women are more sensitive?)

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Maybe because they are more sensitive, as you said.

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:04 am

Kayla wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Then why are there so many ugly married people, with children?
mostly because the english speaking peoples are a bunch of lard asses and this gets worse with age

so people who look ok at 18 become ugly fatsos by 30
Not true with me as several women like to rub my pot belly.

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Re: A woman's reputation

Post by thedoc » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:47 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Kayla wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Then why are there so many ugly married people, with children?
mostly because the english speaking peoples are a bunch of lard asses and this gets worse with age

so people who look ok at 18 become ugly fatsos by 30
Not true with me as several women like to rub my pot belly.

PhilX

Perhaps they just can't find what they really want to rub.

Or perhaps they've mistaken you for a lamp.

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