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Speed bumps are an immoral imposition on freedom of movement, bodily autonomy, property rights, and personal responsibility.
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1. Fact is there is always a percentile of people who couldn't careless but will drive at whatever speed they feel like at certain time due to various reasons.
If 20% that would be approximate 1.6 billion of people around the world.

2. Fact is also, there is always of percentile of people mostly the very young who are not matured enough to have a high cognition of road safety.
Plus there is a percentage of the elderly who cannot move fast nor highly cognitive or slow to react.

The combination of fact 1 and 2 had resulted in many accidents and there are fatalities.

It is found the setting up of speed bumps had reduced such speed related accidents and fatalities.

Anyone who argued against the above and insist on their rights within public places is not aligning with moral sentiments.

There are other reasons why speed bumps are necessary, e.g. noise, etc.
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Advocate wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:34 am Speed bumps are an immoral imposition on freedom of movement, bodily autonomy, property rights, and personal responsibility.
I agree. Kill the driver's who run over people in crosswalks. Even if they don't kill the pedestrians. Just kill those drivers. In the short term innocent pedestrian deaths might go up. But in the long run, they would go down.
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[quote="Veritas Aequitas" post_id=570266 time=1651473622 user_id=7896]
1. Fact is there is always a percentile of people who couldn't careless but will drive at whatever speed they feel like at certain time due to various reasons.
If 20% that would be approximate 1.6 billion of people around the world.

2. Fact is also, there is always of percentile of people mostly the very young who are not matured enough to have a high cognition of road safety.
Plus there is a percentage of the elderly who cannot move fast nor highly cognitive or slow to react.

The combination of fact 1 and 2 had resulted in many accidents and there are fatalities.

It is found the setting up of speed bumps had reduced such speed related accidents and fatalities.

Anyone who argued against the above and insist on their rights within public places is not aligning with moral sentiments.

There are other reasons why speed bumps are necessary, e.g. noise, etc.
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All your objections ignore the existence of drivers licenses which exist to be a guarantee that someone know how to drive safely, Without a nanny state. If a normal person really can't be trusted to drive safely then they really shouldn't be given a license to do so. If they can, a license really isn't necessary.

Moreover, rules should be an informational suggestion for the ignorant, not an imposition on your shocks and struts.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 8:16 am
Advocate wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:34 am Speed bumps are an immoral imposition on freedom of movement, bodily autonomy, property rights, and personal responsibility.
I agree. Kill the driver's who run over people in crosswalks. Even if they don't kill the pedestrians. Just kill those drivers. In the short term innocent pedestrian deaths might go up. But in the long run, they would go down.
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Impenitent wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:33 pm

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Death Race 2000 was a fantastic production!

Let's hear it for Frankenstein!!

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Advocate wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 1:12 pm All your objections ignore the existence of drivers licenses which exist to be a guarantee that someone know how to drive safely, Without a nanny state. If a normal person really can't be trusted to drive safely then they really shouldn't be given a license to do so. If they can, a license really isn't necessary.

Moreover, rules should be an informational suggestion for the ignorant, not an imposition on your shocks and struts.
What kind of nonsense you are talking about? Your thinking is too shallow in this case.

A driver's license merely test and guarantee basic competence.
It does not guarantee the psychological state of the driver at the time he took the test, that the driver will not drive recklessly immediate after he obtained his license or in the later part of his life.

Even with the medical profession and after many years of studying and training, there is no guarantee doctors will do their job properly nor get into any perversion. It is the same with every other profession and everywhere where humans are tested for basic competence.

What I have provided are empirical evidences of facts of accidents and fatalities which must be taken into account by the authorities and the corrective actions necessary for any responsible authority.
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