henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 1:30 am
Can you prove your premise?: A man belongs to himself.
Absolutely. I can ask you, or anyone (and I mean
anyone, anywhere),
are you meant to be property?.
100% of the time, you, or anyone, will say not
no, but
hell no.
This is not a cultural thing or a preference: it's what every respondent
knows about himself. He knows he belongs to himself (and he knows it's wrong to leash him...as I say: even the slaver knows this...hell, even sculptor as he
(mis)educates us all on how roman slaves wanted to be slaves,
knows he is his own and that it would be wrong to leash him...hell, all the amoralists in-forum
know this).
In a world of huge difference and schism, this self-knowledge is the one thing all men, anywhere, any time, have in common.
No matter how high or low, how rich or poor, how smart or stupid, how (supposedly) amoral or moral: each and every one
knows he belongs to himself. It's his nature. He cannot naturally crave the leash.
As I say: Instinctually, invariably, unambiguously, a man knows he belongs to himself.
He doesn't reason it, doesn't work out the particulars of it in advance. He never wakens to it, never discovers it. It's not an opinion he arrives at or adopts. His self-possession, his ownness, is essential to what and who he is; it's concrete, non-negotiable, and consistent across all circumstances.
It's real, like the beating of his heart.
It's self-evident.
If you find even *one person who sez
yeah, I'm meant to be property, who truly believes this, then my notions are falsified.
*now, you have to play fair...even a crazy person knows he is his own...he
is crazy though: his responses may not correspond to the question, so you'd have to control for that and other idiosyncrasies of understanding (for example, a devout Christian may say he's God's property...this is somewhat different, though, than sayin' other men
ought to own you)