He surrendered because he's now going to get publicity and "fame". His 15 minutes.He surrendered when faced with large* numbers of armed folks (police). Those in the store, were not armed.
He will be able to keep promoting his cause.
He surrendered because he's now going to get publicity and "fame". His 15 minutes.He surrendered when faced with large* numbers of armed folks (police). Those in the store, were not armed.
That's your reasoning. Other folks will reason that's he a coward, or a cuckoo.
some would run, surephyllo wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 5:00 pmYeah. Cause all those people want to be in a gunfight with a guy wearing body armor and firing an assault rifle at them.If such a well-armed, well-armored, person woulda went to town in a grocery where anyone, everyone, was armed (the lil old lady with a derringer, the stock boy with a plastic glock, the karen with a 22, the mid-aged guy with a 38 snubbie, and so on): he woulda killed far less and he'd have never left the store alive.
They wouldn't run for their lives.
Given a constitution that does not infringe on the right to bear arms, you're correct.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 5:47 pm We're overthinkin' it.
People will do as they do: some will run, some will hide, some will stand, some will die.
My point, insofar as it matters: more folks live if more folks are armed, trained, and competent.
Not your average shit-in-the-streets resident, then.California is where those religious folks tied up the shooter
iambiguous wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 1:43 am
Meanwhile let's all try to imagine the carnage up in Buffalo today if the shooter had used a bazooka instead.
Come on, Henry in "owning" himself wants to live in a world where private citizens are legally permitted to buy and sell bazookas. Others, however, in "owning" themselves want to live in a world where private citizens are not permitted to buy and sell bazookas. Now, if, in America, Henry's political convictions prevailed and Payton Gendron had taken a bazooka into that supermarket, how many more black folks could he have killed? Killed because in "owning" himself Gendron was also a flagrant racist.Walker wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 3:45 pm That’s what’s called static analysis. You change one variable, but none other, and then make an erroneous conclusion. It’s rather disingenuous. It’s weak. It's a mental experiment that ignores obvious, important causation. It’s insulting to intelligent people like hq.
Right, a world in which both the shooters and those being shot at are equally armed with bazookas. In Henry's head, of course, that is all perfectly in sync with following the dictates of Reason and Nature. Only from Henry's perspective those who don't follow his own dictates here are wrong, dumb and diseased. Not to mention morons, asswipes, pinheads, degenerates, idiots, deficients, nutjobs, and loons.
In an America where it was commonsensical to own and be proficient with firearms: he'd be dead.Now, if, in America, Henry's political convictions prevailed and Payton Gendron had taken a bazooka into that supermarket, how many more black folks could he have killed?
Or just wrong-headed, yep.from Henry's perspective those who don't follow his own dictates here are wrong, dumb and diseased. Not to mention morons, asswipes, pinheads, degenerates, idiots, deficients, nutjobs, and loons.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 4:22 pmWalker wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 3:45 pmThat’s what’s called static analysis. You change one variable, but none other, and then make an erroneous conclusion. It’s rather disingenuous. It’s weak. It's a mental experiment that ignores obvious, important causation. It’s insulting to intelligent people like hq.*iambiguous wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 1:43 am
Meanwhile let's all try to imagine the carnage up in Buffalo today if the shooter had used a bazooka instead.
If the killer was armed, other civilians would also be armed with weapons of their own, because their rights would also not be infringed.
After the first shot, or even if he aimed the damn thing in public, then they would kill bazooka man, or disarm him and tie him up, like those religious folks did in Texas ... although that maniac in Takesus didn't pull out a concealed bazooka.
Knowing that everyone is armed, makes everyone really polite.
* It also doesn't measure up to your capacity, from what I've read.
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What happened in Buffalo was awful, and it doesn't have a damn thing to do with my stated position in this thread.
As I say: if I want a bazooka, can find a supplier, can meet his price, I'll have a bazooka.
All the mass shootings in the world changes my position not one bit.
Indeed, I imagine that if private citizens exchanged bazooka rounds, rounds designed to actually penetrate tanks, a lot of folks might end up dead. Or if private citizens were able to buy and sell grenades and 50 caliber machine guns? Same thing. Lots and lots and lots and lots of dead people.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 6:48 pmIn an America where it was commonsensical to own and be proficient with firearms: he'd be dead.Now, if, in America, Henry's political convictions prevailed and Payton Gendron had taken a bazooka into that supermarket, how many more black folks could he have killed?
from Henry's perspective those who don't follow his own dictates here are wrong, dumb and diseased. Not to mention morons, asswipes, pinheads, degenerates, idiots, deficients, nutjobs, and loons.
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