simplicity wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:39 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:37 am
If one HATES the society that they were born into and brought up in, then I would suggest there is a legitimate reason for that view. Some thing must have happened for that view to have been formed.
Maybe, maybe not.
You will find that there is ALWAYS a legitimate reason why a human being would end up hating the society which they find "them self" in.
simplicity wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:39 pm
Just because you hate something doesn't mean it's "bad" for the rest of the society.
We were talking about hating society, and not some 'thing'.
If ANY person hates society, and it is for a legitimate reason, then there is something bad in that society, which would be 'bad' for all of the human beings within that society.
simplicity wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:39 pm
Perhaps it's a fringe opinion [like people who like mustard on french fries!].
OBVIOUSLY, this example is NOTHING like 'hating a society'.
simplicity wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:39 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:37 amAnyway, you now saying that if individuals hate the society that they live in, then they should work for change, appears to contradict completely your previous view that it is the responsibility of individuals to care for the society.
So, which one is it? The two views are obviously incompatible.
Why is working to better something not taking care of society?
It is not, is it?
And, if it is the responsibility of individuals to care for and better the society, then there is, obviously, things within the society that need changing.
Also, the main reason why individuals hate society is because society does not take responsibility by caring for its individuals.
simplicity wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:39 pm
simplicity wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:40 pm
Just because you don't happen to agree with something doesn't mean it should be changed [e.g., the crazy woke-folks]. They hate everything for religious reasons.
Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:37 amBesides this being a completely off topic and false claim this also appears to be a very generalized and wild assumption you have here. Anyway, I was just clarifying with you if it is the responsibility of EVERY individual to care for EVERY society that they live in.
I thought it was an excellent example of folks who see things a certain way where the vast majority does not.
LOL
Also, how could a false claim be an "excellent example"?