Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:17 am
Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:24 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:35 am
I will be very interested if you give examples so that I can improve if what you claim of me is true.
All your pronuncements about moral "facts" are purely doctrinaire, and not evident.
If you start there you might make headway.
Perhaps you would like to start with an example?
I've made the claim,
the moral fact, 'no human ought to kill humans' exists as real and is objective.
QED
That is PURE doctrinaire.
I have already provide the relevant justifications for the above a "1000" times.
You can justify the opinion as much as you like. That does not make it a fact.
It is clearly evident that this is NOT an opinion shared by humans throughout history. Killing is as much a part of the human moral experience as any thing else.
One crude evidence of the above fact is self-evident, i.e.
that moral fact 'no human ought to kill humans' exists within you, i.e. that is why you don't go about killing humans.
People, do, in fact go around killing people: murder, mayhem, revenge, legal executions, warfare- legal and illegal.
I'll take for granted you are a normal person.
"Normal" - what a can of worms that is!!
I do not regard YOU as normal. Because normal people know the difference between suggestions, opinions and doctrines.
Now, why don't YOU prove me wrong and get out to kill some humans?
I have no need to kill to prove you wrong. "Normal" people (so called) kill people all the time.
Of the tens of thousands of soldiers engaged in warfare the world over - how many of them do you consider the be abnormal?
Tell me your plans, say you will kill some people in a massage parlor on such a such a day and if News report confirm that, I will consider doubting my thesis.
Being silly does not advance your claim.