Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:19 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:12 am
Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:33 pm
FALSE
Most people can think of laws that are immoral, or amoral. Why can't you?
You missed my point.
No, you missed the point. You always miss the point.
What I say here invalidates what you are saying.
It is a LEGAL fact, Genocide is legally 'wrong' in all sovereign nations.
That is a legal fact within a legal framework and system [FSK].
If you don't agree, show me proofs which country permit "genocide" as legal?
Since when?
And, more's the point, since when have all laws been moral?
Here you are confusing people's opinion with facts, i.e. in this case legal facts within a legal framework and system.
The point is you cannot conflate morality with law which is politics.
Note my definition of what is morality-proper
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- Politics = the activities associated with the governance of a country or area, especially the debate between parties having power.
Laws [political] = the system of rules which a particular country or .... recognizes as regulating the actions of its members [citizens] and which it may enforce by the imposition of penalties.
Thus when you conflate morality with politics and its law it shows your ignorance relative to this more serious mode of discussion.
What people think [opinions] of laws in their countries is irrelevant to the real existence of the law as a matter of fact.
Duh
Duh your ignorance what is a legal framework and system [FSK] within a sovereign nation.
I believe laws that allowed killing of humans in whatever form are not in alignment with what is morality-proper and thus need to be got rid off in the FUTURE but not now due to our current human state.
This does not advance your moral objectivity argument. What is the "right action" is nothing more than your opinion.
How come you are so ignorant?
I have argued 'no human ought to kill humans' is a natural fact within the brains of all humans independent of anyone's opinion.
As such, "not killing humans" as a fact in your brain is the "right action" which you are adopting at present, i.e. at present, you don't have any intention of killing your wife or other humans? right?
Blind considerations of biophilia is stupidity,
IN your opinion.
The world has moved on from your childish 19thC morality.
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That 'humans ought not to kill humans' is childish? -if you think it is, that's childish thinking.
Since you are blindly and all for biophilia which means you are into zoophilia as well, i.e. that extra loving feelings for all animals.
In that case you should not take antibiotics as that will kill millions of living bacteria [good and bad].
Perhaps you should go near a person within covid19 to get infected to be a super-spreader so spread to others to assist the the covid19 virus to survive as long as possible.