the ethics of abortion

[bahman]

There is no beginning question because you cannot save the lives of both in the second case so you at least save the life of one.

Ok, and what of the times when the baby could be saved at the expense of the mother?

If you can save the baby then you can save the mother too.

[Advocate]

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There is no beginning question because you cannot save the lives of both in the second case so you at least save the life of one.
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Ok, and what of the times when the baby could be saved at the expense of the mother?
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If you can save the baby then you can save the mother too.
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This is not always the case. Ever heard of "died in childbirth"?

[bahman]

Ok, and what of the times when the baby could be saved at the expense of the mother?

If you can save the baby then you can save the mother too.

This is not always the case. Ever heard of "died in childbirth"?

You don't know the outcome of the surgery so the mother dies in both cases whether she accepts the surgery or not. SO it is logical to accept the surgery.

[Skepdick]

Same topic - different bullshit.

The question is always: How do we decide who gets to decide?

Pre-canned response: My body - my choice.
Queue anti-vaxers: Precisely!

[bahman]

Same topic - different bullshit.

The question is always: How do we decide who gets to decide?

Pre-canned response: My body - my choice.
Queue anti-vaxers: Precisely!

People just don't think throughly.

[Terrapin Station]

Protection of a mother's health is meaningless unless you consider the fetus not a person or not worthy of the same level of protection of their life, which leaves the entire question open.

The second for me. I don't consider fetuses worthy of the same level of protection. The question isn't open for me. On my view, there's no doubt that it's unethical to ban abortion, and I don't agree that it should be anyone's decision except for the mother's.

[bahman]

Protection of a mother's health is meaningless unless you consider the fetus not a person or not worthy of the same level of protection of their life, which leaves the entire question open.

The second for me. I don't consider fetuses worthy of the same level of protection. The question isn't open for me. On my view, there's no doubt that it's unethical to ban abortion, and I don't agree that it should be anyone's decision except for the mother's.

The question is whether the fetus is a person. It is to me.

[Terrapin Station]

Protection of a mother's health is meaningless unless you consider the fetus not a person or not worthy of the same level of protection of their life, which leaves the entire question open.

The second for me. I don't consider fetuses worthy of the same level of protection. The question isn't open for me. On my view, there's no doubt that it's unethical to ban abortion, and I don't agree that it should be anyone's decision except for the mother's.

The question is whether the fetus is a person. It is to me.

I'm fine considering the fetus a person. Fetuses are persons that mothers should be allowed to legally kill while the fetus is wholly contained inside them.

[Skepdick]

People just don't think throughly.

So give it your thoroughest thought and let us know: How do we decide who gets to decide?

[bahman]

The second for me. I don't consider fetuses worthy of the same level of protection. The question isn't open for me. On my view, there's no doubt that it's unethical to ban abortion, and I don't agree that it should be anyone's decision except for the mother's.

The question is whether the fetus is a person. It is to me.

I'm fine considering the fetus a person. Fetuses are persons that mothers should be allowed to legally kill while the fetus is wholly contained inside them.

I don't think so since the fetus and mother are just different persons.

[Skepdick]

I don't think so since the fetus and mother are just different persons.

How do you plan on preventing black market abortions?

[Advocate]

What rights do conjoined twins have to each other?

[bahman]

People just don't think throughly.

So give it your thoroughest thought and let us know: How do we decide who gets to decide?

The wisest. The one who has the answer to the most of questions.

[Advocate]

Just implant an off switch in every baby's baby parts as soon as they're born. Then the government can control who can have kids.

[Advocate]

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People just don't think throughly.
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So give it your thoroughest thought and let us know: How do we decide who gets to decide?
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The wisest. The one who has the answer to the most of questions.
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You called?