RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:02 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:27 am
You praised 'independence' of the individual highly but ignored the negatives side of it.
I've been waiting eighty years for someone to identify the negative sides of independence. So far, no one has been able to identify even one.
The negatives arise when individuals think themselves as an independent island.
I googled 'the weakness of being independent' which showed the following results,
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About 235,000,000 results (0.47 seconds)
Note one of the millions;
The Downside of Being Independent
https://identity-mag.com/the-downside-o ... dependent/
It is never too late to learn new tricks in this case.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:27 am
As such you leaned to the wrong interpretation of 'no man is an island.'
I did not, "learn," my interpretation of the phrase. It is my interpretation of the absurd collectivist idea's from John Donne's
Devotions Upon Emergent Occasions, Meditation XVII:, which compare's mankind to a continent, and ends with the words, "any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee." Though what it means is certainly wrong, it does not mean the nonsense, "the phrase
no man is an island means that
no one is truly self-sufficient, everyone must rely on the company and comfort of others in order to thrive," you spouted.
Yes, the phrase was originally from John Donne's
Devotions Upon Emergent Occasions, Meditation XVII:.
However the phrase is generally and commonly used as an idiom to mean,
"the phrase
no man is an island means that
no one is truly self-sufficient"
Note this;
https://7esl.com/no-man-is-an-island/
The reference to John Donne is archaic and historical.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:27 am
... if we know for sure we will be attacked by aliens from Jupiter or elsewhere and that they will exterminate all human beings ...
No such luck, but I'd be on the side of the aliens from Jupiter. With the exception of a few individuals, I have no interest in the fate of that vile mass of protoplasm you refer to as, "humanity."
That show you are inherently evil by nature.
That is the reason you do not view 'Morality' [good] highly but prefer 'evil'.