Re: How can we defeat "us vs. them" mentality?
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:58 pm
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If there is no "us", then what is there (or here)?
You forget that mother nature is female so there will always be trouble. Men will be gathered around the campfire talking of peace as they enjoy some cold ones and assorted foods. But then a cute blonde will walk by shaking her attractive behind and the men being seated will enable her to make a vivid impression. Then all the men will have the same thought: MINE. Thoughts of peace will be postponed
I do not mean they do not exist, but the way of looking at people as anything other than individuals is the root of the so-called us vs. them problem.
Be careful or you will earn the wrath of progressives who seek uniformity in thought. They will turn college students into mindless snowflakes devoted to the goals of their collective. You will be reeducated and forget all about individuality. Your purpose will be to serve your political party. Never let anyone get the impression that you believe Simone has a point. It will not be tolerated.Most people view people, including themselves, as members of some group, collection, or class of people such as national origin, race, or culture, and judge them as superior or inferior on the basis of those collective identifications. The only solution to the problem, which can only be implemented by individuals is to only recognize others as individuals and to judge them solely on basis of what they do and make of themselves. No one is better or worse, including ourselves, because they belong to or are assigned to some group.
That is what I mean when I say I am not a member of any "us" or "we."
Don’t think – be comfortable. Let your progressive superiors think for you, It is for your own good. Your progressive government will know best. Those who disagree will be eliminated and peace will reign"When a man joins a political party, he submissively adopts a mental attitude which he will express later on with words such as, ‘As a monarchist, as a Socialist, I think that …’ It is so comfortable! It amounts to having no thoughts at all. Nothing is more comfortable than not having to think." Simone Weil
OURSNick_A wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:05 amYou forget that mother nature is female so there will always be trouble. Men will be gathered around the campfire talking of peace as they enjoy some cold ones and assorted foods. But then a cute blonde will walk by shaking her attractive behind and the men being seated will enable her to make a vivid impression. Then all the men will have the same thought: MINE. Thoughts of peace will be postponed
Why will there ALWAYS be an "us" and a "them"?
... in the hand of every citizen. Not just of the prez.Impenitent wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:33 pm nuclear weapons and mutually assured destruction...
-Imp
Thanks for putting this down, Dubious, I was going to say something to the same effect.
What about abortions. Climate change might change, as it is prone to change. Abortions are here to stay.Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:16 am The most contentious form of "us versus them" mentality is climate change denial. To use this form of tribalism as an example, one way to overcome tribalism is to understand the history of anti-intellectualism in the US, and the distribution patterns of anti-intellectualism on the map of the USA.
The US is not the only nation where climate deniers can be found however it is a glaring example of anti-intellectualism formally headed by President Trump.
You are suggesting something that isn't wanted and unnatural for humanity as we know it. Breaking down "us vs. them" mentality would require depriving Man of two of his greatest psychological needs: power and prestige. Man is denied both in the absence of us vs them. George Orwell explains power:philosopher wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:54 pm Is it possible to break down "us vs. them" mentality? How?
I suggest:
* Ban on team sports on large/nationwide levels.
* Ban on non-professional uniforms (police officers should carry a uniform as part of their profession, but uniforms symbolizing an ideology or religion should be banned - like Ku-Klux-Klan-uniforms and niqab etc.). Also, school uniforms should be banned.
* Abolish conscription in countries where any such thing exists.
* Make it legal to desecrate private possessions of national symbols (ie. if you own a flag of your own country, you should be free to burn it).
* Other bans on nationalism.
With power comes prestige. All those in positions of power do so by being attracted to power and prestige. You could make all women dress alike in burkas so they cannot be recognized so the us and them doesn't exist but it cannot last other than in slavery simply because of the need to express individuality beginning with body type.“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”
― George Orwell, 1984