How europe (especially germany) could solve his problems

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How europe (especially germany) could solve his problems

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Hello everybody!

I am making thinkings about how europe, especially germany could solve his crisis.
So let me explain, they are coming to have a better qualification in life and better infrastructure for their own life.
Some of them get full of violence, why they maybe not become what they want or what ever.
What I think the problem is: I have lived 6 years in a psychic illness facility.
And how you get handled there with your illnesses its not normal. The reality is signed by strong control in those houses,
where you have to assist strict rules, and when you dont follow them, you get throwed out of that house into another station.

This is, what they do with ill people in germany. And luckily i live in my own flat right now, so im away from those handlings luckily.
But I can imagine, that the controll in the houses where refugees live arent better as in psychic houses in gemany. The controll is
very high, and even we would sink those controls, we would give EVERYONE a better self punished feeling that everyone could
take his life more careful.

Evern we would handle the refugees more lovely, and how they can develop their selfs, they would integrate themself better in the society.
But so strict the controll is assuming, there is no chance, to develop a better self concentrated feeling for everyone no matter if you are refugee or an german human.Even we find a way to send out their own "self--control" to develop his own chances and powers in some personal ways.

We all have to come togehter and to watch how we could solve those problems without rising of violence. Some refugees are getting full of violence, because their lost perspective. But that should be no excuse to hurt other people. My mind says, that we need a plan, that let grow the local people and the refugees together and built of the differences between those people groups. Only a together-comming can make a nation strong and can aim and handle those crisis. But for sure, they would never sink those controll.

This is the sad thing, that life is over-controlled by those people , who want to determine the ill and other people who should have no place in society. But the solution can only be come toegether as one, and so we can let go those problems if we work together. It is how it is, but we can solve it without a rise of violence.


This is my opinion of those crisis.

What do you think about my thinkings?


Best greetings
From Germany
Dominik
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philosophic nature wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 7:48 am Hello everybody!

I am making thinkings about how europe, especially germany could solve his crisis.
So let me explain, they are coming to have a better qualification in life and better infrastructure for their own life.
Some of them get full of violence, why they maybe not become what they want or what ever.
What I think the problem is: I have lived 6 years in a psychic illness facility.
And how you get handled there with your illnesses its not normal. The reality is signed by strong control in those houses,
where you have to assist strict rules, and when you dont follow them, you get throwed out of that house into another station.

This is, what they do with ill people in germany. And luckily i live in my own flat right now, so im away from those handlings luckily.
But I can imagine, that the controll in the houses where refugees live arent better as in psychic houses in gemany. The controll is
very high, and even we would sink those controls, we would give EVERYONE a better self punished feeling that everyone could
take his life more careful.

Evern we would handle the refugees more lovely, and how they can develop their selfs, they would integrate themself better in the society.
But so strict the controll is assuming, there is no chance, to develop a better self concentrated feeling for everyone no matter if you are refugee or an german human.Even we find a way to send out their own "self--control" to develop his own chances and powers in some personal ways.

We all have to come togehter and to watch how we could solve those problems without rising of violence. Some refugees are getting full of violence, because their lost perspective. But that should be no excuse to hurt other people. My mind says, that we need a plan, that let grow the local people and the refugees together and built of the differences between those people groups. Only a together-comming can make a nation strong and can aim and handle those crisis. But for sure, they would never sink those controll.

This is the sad thing, that life is over-controlled by those people , who want to determine the ill and other people who should have no place in society. But the solution can only be come toegether as one, and so we can let go those problems if we work together. It is how it is, but we can solve it without a rise of violence.


This is my opinion of those crisis.

What do you think about my thinkings?


Best greetings
From Germany
Dominik
You can't have large segments of foreigners moving into another society with which it has nothing in common and believe everything will work out fine. Can't blame the Germans for getting pissed off.
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Dominik, how to integrate foreigners depends upon how much the foreigners are willing to integrate, and also how accepting the host peoples are.

So questions we need to ask are " Will these foreigners accept some of the host culture?" and "Will the host peoples accept some of the foreign culture?"

Problems are

1. Intransigence of foreign religionists clashing with local schooling. Sex education, and subservience of women, are typical problem areas.
2. Host peoples feeling of distrust of foreign ethnicity. This is less of a problem in the UK than it was years ago.
3. Poverty causing regression to tribalism by both hosts and foreigners.
4. Too much difference in income between the haves and the have-nots which causes the rich people to be afraid of losing their advantages.
5. The rise of far-right extremists and their political representatives.

I can't comment on whether or not your hospital treatment was suitable for you. Every institution including hospitals has to have rules of conduct for both staff and patients, and people who cannot or will not keep to the rules have to cease disrupting other people. Similar;y with visitors or migrants from foregn countries; they have to keep to the laws of the land.
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Belinda wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 8:24 pm Dominik, how to integrate foreigners depends upon how much the foreigners are willing to integrate, and also how accepting the host peoples are.

So questions we need to ask are " Will these foreigners accept some of the host culture?" and "Will the host peoples accept some of the foreign culture?"

Problems are

1. Intransigence of foreign religionists clashing with local schooling. Sex education, and subservience of women, are typical problem areas.
2. Host peoples feeling of distrust of foreign ethnicity. This is less of a problem in the UK than it was years ago.
3. Poverty causing regression to tribalism by both hosts and foreigners.
4. Too much difference in income between the haves and the have-nots which causes the rich people to be afraid of losing their advantages.
5. The rise of far-right extremists and their political representatives.

I can't comment on whether or not your hospital treatment was suitable for you. Every institution including hospitals has to have rules of conduct for both staff and patients, and people who cannot or will not keep to the rules have to cease disrupting other people. Similar;y with visitors or migrants from foregn countries; they have to keep to the laws of the land.
the hoisting culture is not the problem, no one forces an immigrant to immigrate. the hosting culture doesn't have to adapt no more than the jungle has to adapt to the presence of an outsider. the outsider should adapt to it hosting culture or environment, which is the natural process. all other brain farts interfere and exacerbate the natural flow. even when immigrant cultures have been known to keep to themselves.

its still sustained in the US where people have come from somewhere else. many neighborhoods of ethnic segregation exist in the US. that have been such since Elis island, but they're not stupid enough to expect the host country to change because of their presence.

for example in Pittsburgh Pa there's a neighborhood known as squirrel hill predominately Jewish and at least in the 70/80's anyone can live in squirrel hill if it please them but good luck finding a store open on Saturdays. no body was griping about their ways of living and they didn't either.

but its human nature to be hostile to one another, even family fights with each other when there's no common enemy to fight against together.


if you are talking about immigrating those of middle east Muslim culture, you will have troubles. they have been taught since children that infidels must convert or die. and its very unlikely that they have turncoats by the thousands to their own beliefs.
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Dubious wrote: You can't have large segments of foreigners moving into another society with which it has nothing in common and believe everything will work out fine. Can't blame the Germans for getting pissed off.
They didn't appear to care when they brought all the Turks in to rebuild their country?
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DPMartin wrote:
the hoisting culture is not the problem,
It is here in the UK'. Please look up 'Windrush scandal' and https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/windrush
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philosophic nature wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 7:48 am

What do you think about my thinkings?


Best greetings
From Germany
Dominik
Domink,

If a European nation like Germany, that has a majority white/European descended populations suddenly opens it borders to large numbers of non-white immigrants from a country outside of Europe that has a a very different culture and different set of traditional values, moral norms and social mores what will happen is that you will inevitably end up with with a range of serious social problems on your hands.


The reasons are that when your open your borders like stupid Angela Merkel did to an influx 1,000,000 (!!) migrants from the Middle East and Africa, these people will NOT integrate into mainstream German life. Rather, they will form isolated racial enclaves and will not mix with native Germans nor make any attempt to adopt fundamental German values or learn the German language or participate in local customs and so on. I would like to stress that this is what ALWAYS happens when any nation accepts mass immigration from a foreign country that is markedly racially and culturally different. It happened in the UK, for instance when Tony Blair's government accepted mass numbers of Muslim immigrants and African immigrants into Britain. They did not assimilate, what they DID do is cause a tremendous amount of social turmoil and damage. This is why stupid Angela Merkel and former British Prime Minister David Cameron both declared in 2011 that "multiculturalism has been a failure."


If Angela Merkel continues to make sudden decisions that allow even more mass immigration into Germany from places like Africa and the Arab states of the Middle East, Turkey and so on, German society will become even more fragmentary, divided and less coherent. Eventually this will trigger large-scale instability within the state on account of escalating racial tension and conflict between the native Germans and the new foreign migrants. Then rioting, violent crime,rape, etc will blight your country (Look at what happened in Sweden - which is now the "rape capital" of Europe !)


So, what should you Germans do ?


STEP 1: Get rid of Angela Merkel. She is a stupid bitch.


STEP 2: Deport all Turks, Muslims, African, etc; out of Germany and back to the country they came from as soon as is practically possible.


Kindest Regards

Dachshund

PS: Als junger Mann in meinen Zwanzigern lebte ich in England, und mein bester Freund war jahrelang einDeutscher namens Dominik (aus Bonn). Ich war viel in Deutschland mit ihm unterwegs. Ich leibe Deutschland und das deutsche Volk. Meine Lieblingsstadte sind Berlin und Munchen. Ich hoffe das Ihnen das Migranteproblemen gut geht !

Grusse

Dachshund ("Ich bin ein Berliner" !!)....(not the donut)
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Arising_uk wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 1:36 am
Dubious wrote: You can't have large segments of foreigners moving into another society with which it has nothing in common and believe everything will work out fine. Can't blame the Germans for getting pissed off.
They didn't appear to care when they brought all the Turks in to rebuild their country?
As someone who has spent quite a lot of time in Germany (mainly Berlin) over the years, I can tell you that the native Germans were highly unimpressed at having the Turks living in their cities. They F**king hated them, in fact.

Regards

Dachshund
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Then why don't you know that unless you claim to be a doughnut you should say "Ich Bin Berliner"?
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Belinda wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 7:02 pm Then why don't you know that unless you claim to be a doughnut you should say "Ich Bin Berliner"?
Dear Belinda,


I am writing a lengthy post for you Belinda (I know you're glad to hear this !) that is designed to cure you of your mental affliction, i.e; "refractory socialism", and I am hopeful the text will set you on the path to understanding the nature and importance of what I believe is THE most fundamental principle of Conservative political philosophy. If it does then I am confident you will then be motivated to research and carefully study all of the foundational tenets of Conservatism. You will, in short, come to "see the light" and before long be voting Tory at every election. As for me, I will be rewarded with that sublime peace of mind that comes from knowing I have played a pivotal role in rescuing the soul of a wretched little girl who was, indeed, "Hell -Bound", but now is saved ! :D :D

Regards

Dachshund

Regarding Berliners, don't be such a pedantic show-off. I never said my German was perfect, and in any case, (as you know) the joke is about JFK's pledge to the people of West Berlin during the Cold War: "Ich bin ein Berliner." ( i.e. " Don't worry, America is with you all the way") It was a great speech by Kennedy and for him (the most powerful man in the world to end it by effectively saying: "I am a donut" - (even if the "ein" was correctly in place) - is something the people of Berlin have always found funny.
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When Kennedy said "Ich bin ein Berliner" it was stated figuratively meaning it was stated correctly.
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Dachshund wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 6:19 pm
So, what should you Germans do ?

Get rid of Angela Merkel. She is a stupid bitch.
Couldn't agree more! Or put another way, lch bin völlig dieselbe Meinung.
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True, Dachie. Kennedy meant very well and also true, Germans liked the joke.
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