Logik wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:22 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:40 am
How does the one called "logik" define the word 'murder'?
I don't. I have no definition for it. I don't need to have my own definition because the definition others have come up with is good enough for me.
I understand the meaning of "murder" in approximately the same way as all 195 countries on Earth who have outlawed it.
I understand the meaning of "murder" in approximately the same way common law has defined it for thousands of years.
And that was my point all along. What "you" understand and what "others" understand and mean can be two completely different things. If you do NOT provide the definitions that you are using, then, for as far as "others" are aware, you could NEVER be wrong. If definitions are NEVER discussed, then NO one is sure of what another is actually talking about, and meaning.
Without definitions absolutely any thing can be absolutely any thing. Of course a rough idea of what another is talking about, and meaning, can be grasped, but they are, at best, just guesses and assumptions, which obviously could be completely or partly wrong.
EVERY thing is relative to the the observer. The observer is the one who decides what means what. They have decided on the definitions to be used. The observer is, after all, the one who is forming, and/or has formed, A VIEW.
Your VIEW could be right or wrong, or partly right and wrong. Until you define the word 'murder', and clarify any further inquiries, I, for one, are NOT sure what you are actually saying and meaning. For example, another person has provided A definition for the word 'murder' and with that definition, although I would "normally" always say that murder is wrong, that person would have to admit that "murder" is perfectly acceptable, and not just that but actually expected also, by SOME, but completely WRONG by and from the perspective of SOME "other" people.
IF 'murder' is right OR wrong all depends on the perspective from what one is LOOKING FROM. A perspective is dependent upon the definitions and meanings that are being used. If we have NOT been informed of these things, then we are NOT really in a position to make comment.
Besides ALL of that, just because WHAT is made LAW does NOT imply that morally that it is right, or wrong. For example, if a very elderly parent or grandparent is extremely sick, in excruciating pain, dying, and their wish is to die, but so called "common" law calls the act of "assisting a person to die" 'murder' and you were to assist them to die, then is that "murder" wrong?
By the way I NEVER asked you for your own 'made up' definition. I just asked for the definition that you use, or are using (in this particular situation). If it is the same definition or not as "others" have already made up and are using or not, or if it is the same or not that any one uses or not is of NO importance at all. I just NEED to KNOW from your perspective the definition that you are using "here", in order for me to be able to answer your question properly and correctly.