But one side has the word yes on it and the other side has the word no on it.
Why did you state the coin "said" no?
So, the pic that you showed here really had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the actual coin that you were reading, correct?
Yes that is RIGHT. AND, I give you the RIGHT answer, as far as I know. As explained to you BEFORE the coin can NOT give you the RIGHT answer, although at times it might produce the RIGHT answer, inadvertently.
Yes. It's not a photo of the actual coin. It is a coin exactly like it.
So how do I know that you haven't gotten the right answer inadvertently and by pure luck?
I asked my coin: "Can you justify your answer?" it said "Yes".
Why would you do such a seeming strange thing to do?Logik wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:08 pmYes. It's not a photo of the actual coin. It is a coin exactly like it.
One side has "Yes", the other side has "No".
I ask a question. Then I flip it. Then it lands. Then I read the side that faces upwards.
But I am NOT looking for a flaw in that mechanism at all.
How do you 'know' any thing?Logik wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:08 pmSo how do I know that you haven't gotten the right answer inadvertently and by pure luck?Age wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:06 pm Yes that is RIGHT. AND, I give you the RIGHT answer, as far as I know. As explained to you BEFORE the coin can NOT give you the RIGHT answer, although at times it might produce the RIGHT answer, inadvertently.
This is just like it is possible for me to justify my answer, whereas, a coin can NOT justify what you read on the coin.
Of course I give yes/no answers, as far as I know.
Of course MY answer was NOT based on luck. I have NEVER said it was, so there IS no, "Now you are saying ....".
Are you SURE that I have been asking EVERYBODY these exact same questions?Logik wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:22 pm Just to make sure we aren't wasting our time here - I asked my coin the exact same questions you've been asking everybody.
Are you absolutely certain that your answers are correct? Coin said "Yes".
Should I be suspicious of your honesty? Coin said "No"
Do you have any beliefs? Coin said "No".
I have the exact same problem when speaking with you.
But that is only half the story. You could have given me the wrong answer!
That's what the coin said too! When I asked it "Can you justify your answers?" it said "Yes".
I don't have any knowledge. You do.
So when you answered "Yes" to "Can humans reason?" you could have been wrong?
So you are bad at maths. A coin has 50% chance of getting the right answer.
So you are more than 50% certain your answer is correct?
Yes. I did miss it. Can you link me to your justification?
Is reason necessary for humans to deduce? This is a Yes/no question!!!
Yes. I deduce. And I don't need reason for to be able to deduce.
Your argument is fallacious: Begging the question ( https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question )
YOU do this quite often, that is; take a response from a completely off topic issue and place it onto some other thing, and then JUMP to some wild conclusion.
Are not so certain in regards to WHAT EXACTLY?
You really love YOUR coin, right?
YOU make so many assumptions that it makes it harder to SHOW all of them and address them ALL.
I am 100% certain my answer is correct, IN RELATION TO THIS QUESTION. (Now you can take that anyway you want to).
Sure. It was in the sentence preceding the one where I asked; Did you miss it?
But you also said "To the best of my knowledge".
REALLY!!! Thanks for informing us all here of this. I, for one, certainly would NOT have recognized that as being a yes/no question!!!
Again, OBVIOUSLY, IF the opposite of a proposition can be demonstrated, then the proposition is false.
I do NOT CARE. As explained coins can NOT give you the Right and True answers, on their own.
Are you sure you do NOT know how to reason, or could you just by lying?
If this is meant to imply that you are skilled at deduction, then explain how you can deduce without reason.
If you so want to BELIEVE that that is the truth, then so be it.
Great. That is perfect.
That is fair enough.Logik wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:39 pmYour argument is fallacious: Begging the question ( https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question )
You presuppose that which you are trying to prove is true.
No I did NOT.
In regards to WHAT question EXACTLY?
If you say so.
In regards to WHAT EXACTLY?
I do NOT care what your coin says.
Wow,! Now you are accusing me of lying?
I don't know! But I a doing it! I am deducing. Right here. Right now.
I take a general statement which is assumed to be true and then I make particular inferences about things.
Pay attention (again).
Not so quick there sport. I made sure you can't jump through that loophole