Logik wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:13 am
Age wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:04 am
Is that just what you BELIEVE to be the case?
If you have showed that "it" is wrong, WHEN and WHERE did you show this?
In this post...
Are you afraid to provide the so called EVIDENCE? Or, is there another reason WHY you NOT show WHERE and WHEN this supposedly took place?
Logik wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:39 pm
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Logik wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:13 amAge wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:04 am
It is a plain old obvious FACT that Absolutely EVERY thing is relative to the observer. No one needs to be taught that. That can be obviously SEEN and KNOWN, without any outside influences.
We moved on from the observer and onto the fact that there are at least 8 billion observers/humans. And if every one of them thought everything is relative to themselves - we would have a really hard time agreeing on anything.
Yet when I say; WHAT it IS that is in agreement with and by EVERY one, then that is
what IS thee Truth, I am usually told; But we will never be in agreement.
Some people actually BELIEVE that it is just TO HARD to get EVERY one to agree on any thing.
Logik wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:13 amWhat Aumann's agreement theorem tells us is that with just yes/no questions you can figure out what other people mean. So that you can agree with them. If you want to...
Do you really NEED to be told/informed through some outside influence that with just yes/no questions you can figure out what other people mean, and, did you also NEED some outside influence before you KNEW that so that you can then agree with them, if you want to. ALL the people I know of have worked that out, all on their own, BEFORE they have reached adulthood.
Logik wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:13 amAge wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:04 am
Great, another "theorem", which could be WRONG.
It's not. It's demonstrably valid and applicable.
If it can NOT be and is NOT WRONG, then it is RIGHT. Full stop.
Logik wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:13 amAge wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:04 am
How many times will it take before you UNDERSTAND. Coins can NOT and do NOT make predictions, on their own.
They do.
lol. You really can NOT see past maths, can you?
To UNDERSTAND the Universe that you exist in, maths will NOT suffice.
Logik wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:13 amAge wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:04 am
You, human beings, put meaning onto sides of coins and then when the coin lands a certain way, YOU have already decided what that side will predict.
Nonsense. If the coin keeps predicting "No" but the correct answer keeps being "Yes". just swap the meaning around....
One again. COINS DO NOT PREDICT.
Human beings predict. Coins do NOT.
Logik wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:13 amAge wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:04 am
Can you SEE that it is YOU, who is ultimately making the prediction, and NOT the coin?
Can you see that you are unable to reason abstractly?
Perfect.
MORE evidence and MORE valid justification for my previous yes response.
SEE, I did NOT have to VALIDLY justify My 'yes' response BECAUSE you can, and did, just do it FOR Me.
Logik wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:13 amAnd that I can implement the "coin" as any machine that answers yes/no probabilistically.
And, as I have been saying inanimate objects do NOT predict. YOU do. Even here you just wrote that it is YOU who is 'implementing'.
By definition inanimate objects can NOT do any thing, on their own. What YOU say that can do, regarding predicting, it is in FACT YOU who is doing that, and NOT the inanimate object.
Logik wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:13 amAge wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:04 am
This can be easily PROVEN.
I am waiting for proof. In Mathematics please.
Keep waiting. If you think "maths" is the answer to EVERY thing, then you are VERY SADLY MISTAKEN.
Also, are you NOT able to SEE and UNDERSTAND things, without maths?
SEE maths can be used to manipulate things in a way to SHOW an illusion of
what IS actually Real and True. As can be proven within some of those so called "theories" that you use.
Logik wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:13 amAge wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:04 am
Do you really think it wise to be asking a coin, or any other inanimate object, any question at all?
If you are wrong 90% of the time, then it's exceptionally wise to ask the coin instead.
If you really BELIEVE that is a WISE thing to do, then continue on doing it.
Logik wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:13 amA coin is only wrong 50% of the time.
Lol. If that is what you BELIEVE, then it MUST be True, correct?