The Golden Rule as Stemming From Geometry

[Eodnhoj7]

The Golden Rule As Stemming From Geometry.

1) "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" observes a self-reflective nature of the individual and the group.

2) Treating others as one wants to be treated observes an alternation between what one values and does not value.

3) Treating other as one want to be treated observes a reciprocation from the one being treated as such.

4) The formation and practice of values depends upon a circulation and projection which gives premise to the value as a point of origin.

5) This Golden Rule in turn reflects to the axiom of "you reap as you sow" further arguing points 1 through 4.

6) The Golden rule in turn exists as an observation of constant cycles with these constant cycles observed relatively through facets of moral decisions (live by the sword and die by the sword, if you want respect treat others with respect, if you steal all will be stolen from you, etc.).

7) The relativistic nature of the Golden rule reflects through many variations which exist as constants in themselves while being extensions of the Golden rule both stemming from a circular and linear nature with value being the point of origin that is the foundation of both the actions and the geometric forms through which they exist.

[prof]

I agree. With your permission I'd like to pass some of these ideas along to readers. It is brilliant of you, Eodnhoj7, to notice that about those maxims, those moral principles.

Send me a private message, telling me your name. I will see to it then that you get credit.


Keep up the good work!

[TimeSeeker]

Whether the Golden Rule stems from, or has been encoded in geometry lands us into a Philosophy-of-mathematics dispute. Is mathematics invented or discovered? I lean towards the "invented" school of thought and so all of the similarities you discover in our theories are simply reflections of our own minds. You can find these marks all across the human body of knowledge.

The no-harm principle ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primum_non_nocere ) is scale-invariant ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_invariance ). It applies at the individual scale or at the social/collective scale.

As you rightly point out it all starts with values. From the school of Protagoras and perspectivism - man is the measure of all things. And the no-harm principle is our highest value. First we wish no harm upon ourselves, and by reciprocity and scale-invariance - no harm upon the collective.

The nature of self-fulfilling prophecies is trivially demonstrated by Ergodic theory ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergodic_theory ) certain social norms (values) are simply not sustainable and lead to systemic collapse through eradication of diversity.

This can be easily observed when one combines Game theory and Ergodic theory. There are only so many strategies that result in systemic equilibrium long-term. Neither altruism nor egoism wins in the end.

You can play the game here: The Evolution of Trust: https://ncase.me/trust/


Do observe though: symmetry is an aesthetic concern more than a naturalistic one.

[Arising_uk]

Hi TimeSeeker,
Given your background you might like this or maybe you've read it already or it may well be out of date by your lights by now but it was an interesting read.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Artificial-Mor ... 0415034841

p.s. scored 35 on trust game, could have got more but am a bit of a consequentialist Kantian in this respect.

[gaffo]

The Golden Rule As Stemming From Geometry.

1) "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" observes a self-reflective nature of the individual and the group.

2) Treating others as one wants to be treated observes an alternation between what one values and does not value.

3) Treating other as one want to be treated observes a reciprocation from the one being treated as such.

4) The formation and practice of values depends upon a circulation and projection which gives premise to the value as a point of origin.

5) This Golden Rule in turn reflects to the axiom of "you reap as you sow" further arguing points 1 through 4.

6) The Golden rule in turn exists as an observation of constant cycles with these constant cycles observed relatively through facets of moral decisions (live by the sword and die by the sword, if you want respect treat others with respect, if you steal all will be stolen from you, etc.).

7) The relativistic nature of the Golden rule reflects through many variations which exist as constants in themselves while being extensions of the Golden rule both stemming from a circular and linear nature with value being the point of origin that is the foundation of both the actions and the geometric forms through which they exist.

nice word salad.

geometry has no connection to morality.
You are bored - i undersand - you post nonsence - again understand.

you have mind and wisdom, i've have noted both here, but sometimes you let your boredom go too far.............and i ignore (as i should have in this thread). lol.

[Eodnhoj7]

The Golden Rule As Stemming From Geometry.

1) "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" observes a self-reflective nature of the individual and the group.

2) Treating others as one wants to be treated observes an alternation between what one values and does not value.

3) Treating other as one want to be treated observes a reciprocation from the one being treated as such.

4) The formation and practice of values depends upon a circulation and projection which gives premise to the value as a point of origin.

5) This Golden Rule in turn reflects to the axiom of "you reap as you sow" further arguing points 1 through 4.

6) The Golden rule in turn exists as an observation of constant cycles with these constant cycles observed relatively through facets of moral decisions (live by the sword and die by the sword, if you want respect treat others with respect, if you steal all will be stolen from you, etc.).

7) The relativistic nature of the Golden rule reflects through many variations which exist as constants in themselves while being extensions of the Golden rule both stemming from a circular and linear nature with value being the point of origin that is the foundation of both the actions and the geometric forms through which they exist.

nice word salad.

geometry has no connection to morality.
You are bored - i undersand - you post nonsence - again understand.

you have mind and wisdom, i've have noted both here, but sometimes you let your boredom go too far.............and i ignore (as i should have in this thread). lol.

Well, at least you read my posts...I don't really bother with yours...boredom and all, most of the time predictable without you intending it in such a manner.

Mine, well they are not really mine only, are predictable but adapt to infinite variations so they are both predictable and not and give sense to words salads such as yours while breaking them down to there core nature.

Maybe you respond out of boredom, and not me? But what is boredom really but dissolusionment. Are you dissolussioned?

Or maybe I am just messing with you right now...


Regardless,


Geometry has no connection for what reason exactly? This is a legitimate question comsidering, recipricocity depends on the linear and circulatory nature of self reflection and the linear and circular nature of individual/group actions mirroring further individual and group actions.

[gaffo]

The Golden Rule As Stemming From Geometry.

1) "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" observes a self-reflective nature of the individual and the group.

2) Treating others as one wants to be treated observes an alternation between what one values and does not value.

3) Treating other as one want to be treated observes a reciprocation from the one being treated as such.

4) The formation and practice of values depends upon a circulation and projection which gives premise to the value as a point of origin.

5) This Golden Rule in turn reflects to the axiom of "you reap as you sow" further arguing points 1 through 4.

6) The Golden rule in turn exists as an observation of constant cycles with these constant cycles observed relatively through facets of moral decisions (live by the sword and die by the sword, if you want respect treat others with respect, if you steal all will be stolen from you, etc.).

7) The relativistic nature of the Golden rule reflects through many variations which exist as constants in themselves while being extensions of the Golden rule both stemming from a circular and linear nature with value being the point of origin that is the foundation of both the actions and the geometric forms through which they exist.

nice word salad.

geometry has no connection to morality.
You are bored - i undersand - you post nonsence - again understand.

you have mind and wisdom, i've have noted both here, but sometimes you let your boredom go too far.............and i ignore (as i should have in this thread). lol.

Well, at least you read my posts...I don't really bother with yours...boredom and all, most of the time predictable without you intending it in such a manner.

Mine, well they are not really mine only, are predictable but adapt to infinite variations so they are both predictable and not and give sense to words salads such as yours while breaking them down to there core nature.

Maybe you respond out of boredom, and not me? But what is boredom really but dissolusionment. Are you dissolussioned?

Or maybe I am just messing with you right now...


Regardless,


Geometry has no connection for what reason exactly? This is a legitimate question comsidering, recipricocity depends on the linear and circulatory nature of self reflection and the linear and circular nature of individual/group actions mirroring further individual and group actions.

we've both noted our contributions here on thise forum = 50/50 per worthy for each of us.

so i keep an eye upon for you and I.

there is wisdom, to me found from you and I.

Thanks for reply - i will continue to note any post from you i deem worthy of wisdom - and many are (some not so - i not them so).

I wish you well Sir.

[Eodnhoj7]

nice word salad.

geometry has no connection to morality.
You are bored - i undersand - you post nonsence - again understand.

you have mind and wisdom, i've have noted both here, but sometimes you let your boredom go too far.............and i ignore (as i should have in this thread). lol.

Well, at least you read my posts...I don't really bother with yours...boredom and all, most of the time predictable without you intending it in such a manner.

Mine, well they are not really mine only, are predictable but adapt to infinite variations so they are both predictable and not and give sense to words salads such as yours while breaking them down to there core nature.

Maybe you respond out of boredom, and not me? But what is boredom really but dissolusionment. Are you dissolussioned?

Or maybe I am just messing with you right now...


Regardless,


Geometry has no connection for what reason exactly? This is a legitimate question comsidering, recipricocity depends on the linear and circulatory nature of self reflection and the linear and circular nature of individual/group actions mirroring further individual and group actions.

we've both noted our contributions here on thise forum = 50/50 per worthy for each of us.

so i keep an eye upon for you and I.

there is wisdom, to me found from you and I.

Thanks for reply - i will continue to note any post from you i deem worthy of wisdom - and many are (some not so - i not them so).

I wish you well Sir.

Word salad, I have no idea what you are talking about relative to contributions or "you and I". I just post sideas and whatever happens happens, I don't care either way.

[gaffo]

Geometry has no connection for what reason exactly? This is a legitimate question comsidering, recipricocity depends on the linear and circulatory nature of self reflection and the linear and circular nature of individual/group actions mirroring further individual and group actions.

OK, you went out of your way to post the above in reply to me, and i respect you from most of the post here.

so value discussion on this particular matter - which you veiw as valuable.

??? I'm dumb on the above so welcome small words and simple ideas - and so assuming I can follow your agrument - to contribute.

[Eodnhoj7]

Geometry has no connection for what reason exactly? This is a legitimate question comsidering, recipricocity depends on the linear and circulatory nature of self reflection and the linear and circular nature of individual/group actions mirroring further individual and group actions.

OK, you went out of your way to post the above in reply to me, and i respect you from most of the post here.

so value discussion on this particular matter - which you veiw as valuable.

??? I'm dumb on the above so welcome small words and simple ideas - and so assuming I can follow your agrument - to contribute.

Okay,

What is the golden rule?

[gaffo]

Geometry has no connection for what reason exactly? This is a legitimate question comsidering, recipricocity depends on the linear and circulatory nature of self reflection and the linear and circular nature of individual/group actions mirroring further individual and group actions.

OK, you went out of your way to post the above in reply to me, and i respect you from most of the post here.

so value discussion on this particular matter - which you veiw as valuable.

??? I'm dumb on the above so welcome small words and simple ideas - and so assuming I can follow your agrument - to contribute.

Okay,

What is the golden rule?

Golden Rule is Christianity's core theology. one i like in the abstract, but regect i the real world.


I personally do not think a thug kicking me will stop if i love him, and so as an Atheist (like the Jews and Muslims) - affirm Reciprocity in the real world.

return what is given you...............and noting who starts it (never be a dick outriright- be charitable by default to all - then return the "Favor" if need be)




Rectiprocity is my person Rule of conduct.

[Veritas Aequitas]

The Golden Rule As Stemming From Geometry.
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nice word salad.

geometry has no connection to morality.
You are bored - i undersand - you post nonsence - again understand.

you have mind and wisdom, i've have noted both here, but sometimes you let your boredom go too far.............and i ignore (as i should have in this thread). lol.

I agree with that.

There is no direct connection between geometry and morality other than both needing their respective axioms and absolutes to ground on.

The golden rule is not a primary axiom nor absolute of morality.
A masochist's "Golden Rule", i.e.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"
would not be considered a moral maxim.

[TimeSeeker]

The golden rule is not a primary axiom nor absolute of morality.
A masochist's "Golden Rule", i.e.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

To make this argument is to pre-suppose that morality has absolutes. Does it?

would not be considered a moral maxim.

To them it IS a moral maxim. They want you to inflict pain upon them.

That does not preclude them from recognising consent.

[Veritas Aequitas]

The golden rule is not a primary axiom nor absolute of morality.
A masochist's "Golden Rule", i.e.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

To make this argument is to pre-suppose that morality has absolutes. Does it?

would not be considered a moral maxim.

To them it IS a moral maxim. They want you to inflict pain upon them.

That does not preclude them from recognising consent.

You are lost on the above.

Victim of cannibal agreed to be eaten
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/ ... ukeharding

You seem to think this is a moral maxim.
I suggest you educate yourself on the typical Philosophy of Morality not those of your own twisted ones.

[TimeSeeker]

Victim of cannibal agreed to be eaten
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/ ... ukeharding

You seem to think this is a moral maxim.
I suggest you educate yourself on the typical Philosophy of Morality not those of your own twisted ones.

I am far better educated than you are. Thank you. I bet you think your morality is the only morality there is. What a twisted, immoral philosophy

I would be curious where you stand on euthanasia.

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south- ... or-murder/