I have no idea if the symbols, "what," "where," and, "concept," signify anything to you. Do they? What do they signify and where do they do that signifying?
Any non-equivocal answers welcome.
Back at you. What concepts do the words 'what', 'where' and 'concept' signify or represent? And what and where are those concepts, and in what way do they exist? Does the concept signified by the word 'concept' exist in the way that word 'concept' exists? Please explain without equivocation.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 12:28 pmI have no idea if the symbols, "what," "where," and, "concept," signify anything to you. Do they? What do they signify and where do they do that signifying?
Any non-equivocal answers welcome.
I love to dip into my foes.Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 10:03 amThen how come we can explain all this "mysticism" to computers?Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 9:41 amSo, a concept is an emergent generalisation made in the mind by means of a conceptualisation process in the brain represented by a neural algorithm analogous to a computer-generated image processed from empirical data. And an idea is also a mental representation (produced by an idealisation process?), but not processed from empirical data.
So concepts and ideas are in the mind, which is in the brain. Sorted. No mysticism there.
To pull a Bill Clinton on you: It depends on what the meaning of the word "anything" is.
Why the sarcasm?
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 12:10 pmThat is EXACTLY how communication works! That's exactly how "being heard" works! I make words mean exactly what I want them to mean. It's a feature, not a bug.
I guess we have to start with reading comprehension with you.
HOW did you decide which one is "true"?
What cultivates curiosity is partly good enough physical health . For instance teachers want their students to be well slept, breakfasted, and have had space and privacy to do their homework, have had their eyes and hearing tested and sorted if necessary.Again, Doctors well know inactive thyroids can and do mimic depression.Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 10:18 amIndeed. The human condition is shared in human experience.
I have spent much time wondering what cultivates curiosity. "That's just how I am wired" is not quite the answer I want.
I don't think it's a problem fixable with a pill.
Socrates and I have a difference of opinion here. Falling on swords is not my idea of victory - there's no virtue in dying for a cause.
Or in the words of Patton: No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making some other poor dumb bastard die for his.
Socrates had a failure of passion.
How do you educate an incurious mind?
They absolutely are, but that is the pinnacle and problem of society. What do we do when our freedoms clash?
The pen is mightier than the sword in a society ruled by laws.
On a battlefield - not so much.
Or the old cliche: I'd rather be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war.
Not even a self driving car can be explained to.Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 1:01 pmTo pull a Bill Clinton on you: It depends on what the meaning of the word "anything" is.
I don't think we can explain "anything" to a computer. I know we can.
Science is what we understand well enough to explain to a computer. Art is everything else we do. --Donald Knuth
And now you will probably scramble and move the goalposts for necessity and sufficiency on what the words "explain" means.
Why does knowing something is the case have anything to do with concepts, any more than it has anything to do with propositions?RCSaunders wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 6:55 pmAlright. It's difficult to discuss epistemology with someone who confuses it with metaphysics. Interesting, though.
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