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Re: What could make morality objective?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:22 am
by surreptitious57
Univalence wrote:
But practically - they are
A true fact must be non falsifiable by definition [ that is a fact ]
Any that are not cannot be true facts regardless of anything else
So science should not declare anything a fact unless it actually is

Still I know what you mean so where there is doubt then deny any fact that status

Re: What could make morality objective?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:16 am
by Univalence
surreptitious57 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:09 am
All distinctions are ultimately subjective because everything is mind dependent from our perspective
But the more rigorous ones are called objective to differentiate between them them and all the others
Precisely. Would you say 700 years of data, continuous downward trend in murders across continents, cultures and generations is empirically rigorous?

Or is it just a coincidence?

Re: What could make morality objective?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:51 am
by Univalence
surreptitious57 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:16 am
A single photograph from space is all that is needed to falsify this and we already have those
What flat Earthers believe is irrelevant because they are wrong and demonstrably so as well
Sure. You can demonstrate that flat Earthers are "wrong". But can you demonstrate that you are "right"?
Because the exact same argument can be made against your position. What you believe is irrelevant too.

If string theory ever takes off then you are working in 11 (or 26) dimensions. What shape is the earth in 26D ?
But we don't even have to go that far. What shape is the Earth in 4D space-time?

Personally, I think flat-Earthers are just a bunch of bored contrarians, who have a fun project on their hands.
With enough commitment to the cause nothing stops them from coming up with an intersection between a hyperplane and a hypersphere

And that would make the Earth "flat". Mathematically anyway.