Strawmaning again!Atla wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 7:52 amWrong as usual. Not positing a real external world is a highly unnatural, dysfunctional, confused way of thinking, which has a much higher chance of leading to all sorts of mental problems, even hallucinations. With no anchor in the "real world", it will also become much harder to get out of these mental problems.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 7:44 am Your thinking is too narrow and shallow!
Yes, the above is optimal for the present condition with 'realism' but like I said, [..I conceded Christianity is the most optimal moral model for the present majority in their current psychological state].
but it will not be optimal for the future, e.g. with the threat of easily available and cheap WMDs.
If everyone were to cling to such an illusion, it will only condone the existence of God [actually illusory] as real and there is no fixed goal post for morality to be guided upon.
As such, there is a potential for the extermination of the human species where SOME [merely] Islamists decide to blast WMDs from a rogue nation [a future state like ISIS]. They have no qualms because they are assured of paradise [with virgins] regardless of what happen to them and others on Earth.
Besides the above, there is a need to expedite the natural morality potential so that human can work together [setting aside personal interests] to resolve global issues like climate change, or the threat of a rogue asteroid that appear suddenly from nowhere and heading Earth.
Your thinking is too narrow and shallow!
So if people adopt your ideas, "God experiences" etc. will become more common, you'll also hear from Allah more often etc. The world will become a more unstable place.
Despite my quoting what is 'realism' in general and Philosophical Realism, you still don't get it.
Note again,
The main elements of "realism" is existence and independence of the mind and every human conditions.Realism about a certain kind of thing (like numbers or morality) is the thesis that this kind of thing has mind-independent existence, i.e. that it is not just a mere appearance in the eye of the beholder,
Realism can also be a view about the properties of reality in general, holding that reality exists independent of the mind, as opposed to non-realist views
Realists tend to believe that whatever we believe now is only an approximation of reality but that the accuracy and fullness of understanding can be improved.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_realism
As such, realists are prone to hallucinations and illusion because they supposedly exist independent of the mind.
OTOH, the non-realist [Kantian] believe the mind is entangled with reality thus hallucinations and illusions are entangled with the mind not independent of the mind.
Theists believe their God is independent of the human mind and person.
There you go, talking with ignorance.