Blah blah blah.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:54 pm Oh, yes, I just realized a (poor) assumption you may be making. Yes, it is true, I don't believe in objective morals. My lack of belief was not caused by you or a fallacy in your argument or by any of your arguments. I stopped believing in them a long time ago. I did mention that Someone's argument (or my own mulling or a philosophical epiphany) may change my mind at some point. But your arguments did not lead me to this position. The fact that it was fallacious did not lead me to the conclusion that there are no objective morals. The fact that your argument was fallacious does not entail that your conclusiion is false, nor have I said it.
I do leave open the possibility someone will mount an argument that is convincing and sound.
That doesn't make your inablity, so far, to do that causal of my belief, nor does it make your conclusion false.
Concurrent with that, I don't believe in objective morals. At the same time and going back in time that has been the case. No causal connection.
All of philosophy is conducted in a state of mental muddle about the meaning of words.
Do you believe in objective gravity? Morality is as objective as that. It has measurable consequences!
In so far as the consequences are measurable morality is objective because measurability and objectivity coincide in an empirical epistemology.
Beyond that everything else is lip service.