I think we've done this before - but here are some observations on your model.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:51 pm
There is nothing meaningful out there in the physical world. All meaning is subjective and when the subjective mind bestows it upon the physical world it is then objective in the form of some biological extension called morality, systems, values or what have you. The physical world as apparent reality your daily reality is a biological readout thus there is only one place to look for answers and that is the experience and understanding of biological subjects. Facts are meanings and again there is only one source.
1 The mind/matter or mind/body split - and therefore so-called problem - is a legacy of Cartesian dualism, which recycled the ancient religious delusion that there are two substances: physical and non-physical. Calling what goes on inside/outside the mind 'subjective' and 'objective' merely repeats and reinforces the mistake.
2 Mentalist talk - about minds containing mental things and events - is and has always been metaphorical - which is why we can 'be in two minds', 'change our minds', 'share our thoughts', and so on. Our everyday talk is saturated with these metaphors, and in their place they are unproblematic. The trouble comes when we take them literally, and invent a realm of abstract, non-physical things, such as concepts, propositions and - pertinent here - meanings that, somehow, exist in the big daddy invention: the mind.
3 Hence your model: the 'subjective mind' (?) bestows meaning on a meaningless objective reality - which is attractive and persuasive, partly because it chimes with our dualist heritage.
4 Leave the fictional mind to one side, and we're left with what we always only ever had: brains. And suddenly it makes no sense to say that brains - physical objects - somehow contain or possess abstract things such as meanings that they somehow bestow on the reality outside them. Out of place, the metaphors crack and crumble.